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Is God real?

Started by zemtex, June 30, 2011, 08:44:49 PM

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zemtex

This is the ultimate test.

Is God real? I will provide my opinion on this later.

What is your opinion on that.
I have been puzzling with lego bricks all my life. I know how to do this. When Peter, at age 6 is competing with me, I find it extremely neccessary to show him that I can puzzle bricks better than him, because he is so damn talented that all that is called rational has gone haywire.

jj2007

Real or imaginary? A complex question indeed ::)

Can Google give the answer...?

hutch--

The solution to the question is simple, pick which act of faith you assume, science or religion, stats are an exact 50%. 50% as to which one is right.  :P
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zemtex

Quote from: jj2007 on June 30, 2011, 09:21:29 PM
Real or imaginary? A complex question indeed ::)

Can Google give the answer...?

Everything is imaginary, imagination is not decisive, it is supplementary. There is no "or" between imaginary and real but it CAN be "false & imaginary" or it can be "true & imaginary".

Einstein mentioned that imagination is more important than knowledge, everything starts by imagination  :lol

Quote from: hutch-- on June 30, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
The solution to the question is simple, pick which act of faith you assume, science or religion, stats are an exact 50%. 50% as to which one is right.  :P

Science is tentative and hence not final. Despite how accurate and convincing science is the question still remains. If you compare all scientific progress with the vastness and complexity of the universe, then science knowledge is more incomplete than what a regular theist would be in his knowledge of God. Knowledge does not necessary mean empirical evidence, it just means that the theist is in knowledge of something that may or may not be public known.

I would like some opinions on the matter, forget about religions, if there is a God and he is all powerful, then the name of him matters little, wouldn't you say?  :P
I have been puzzling with lego bricks all my life. I know how to do this. When Peter, at age 6 is competing with me, I find it extremely neccessary to show him that I can puzzle bricks better than him, because he is so damn talented that all that is called rational has gone haywire.

oex

Quote from: zemtex on June 30, 2011, 10:25:18 PM
I would like some opinions on the matter, forget about religions, if there is a God and he is all powerful, then the name of him matters little, wouldn't you say?  :P

Many people I have met insist there is a god however I have not seen him.... The only thing I can deduce is that he shines out my arse as it's the only place I can not see....
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zemtex

Quote from: oex on June 30, 2011, 10:45:29 PM
Quote from: zemtex on June 30, 2011, 10:25:18 PM
I would like some opinions on the matter, forget about religions, if there is a God and he is all powerful, then the name of him matters little, wouldn't you say?  :P

Many people I have met insist there is a god however I have not seen him.... The only thing I can deduce is that he shines out my arse as it's the only place I can not see....

:lol  (No comment, I am not the master of the universe and cannot tell anything with certainty)
I have been puzzling with lego bricks all my life. I know how to do this. When Peter, at age 6 is competing with me, I find it extremely neccessary to show him that I can puzzle bricks better than him, because he is so damn talented that all that is called rational has gone haywire.

vanjast


vanjast

Quote from: zemtex on June 30, 2011, 10:46:19 PM
.. I am not the master of the universe and cannot tell anything with certainty

Strange!!.. as I am the master of my universe, and with absolute certainty  :bg

zemtex

Quote from: vanjast on June 30, 2011, 10:52:31 PM
Quote from: zemtex on June 30, 2011, 10:46:19 PM
.. I am not the master of the universe and cannot tell anything with certainty

Strange!!.. as I am the master of my universe, and with absolute certainty  :bg

you may continue  :P Everyone knows more than they are willing to tell.
I have been puzzling with lego bricks all my life. I know how to do this. When Peter, at age 6 is competing with me, I find it extremely neccessary to show him that I can puzzle bricks better than him, because he is so damn talented that all that is called rational has gone haywire.

hutch--

Lets expand on these acts of faith, on one side you can pick a religion (A deity created the world) OR you can assume that nature is uniform over time and that the universe has no beginning or end. Both address a situation that cannot be resolved by any viable form of proof. Emmanual Kant coined a term "antinomies" for competing views that are mutually exclusive and that also have no method of verifying or falsifying the truth of any of their statements. Its something like postulating that the folks on Alpha Centauri have 3 arms and 2 heads, it may be true but you have no way to verify the statement.

The debate between science and religion is one of two competing theologian advancing rival theories, mere theology.  :P
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zemtex

I partially agree hutch, absolute statements is not absolutely harmless. Science have no goals of finding any gods, they have no methology to measure gods and it doesn't even have a theory to build on. Science can't be used for absolute truth as science is tentative. People would have to find agreement in philosophy.
I have been puzzling with lego bricks all my life. I know how to do this. When Peter, at age 6 is competing with me, I find it extremely neccessary to show him that I can puzzle bricks better than him, because he is so damn talented that all that is called rational has gone haywire.

hutch--

Now in relation to the assertion that the sun shines out of the nether regions of at least some folks, its worth keeping in mind that there are risks associate with such an illumination, it may fade the colour of the toilet bowl or even worse, fade the curtains in the loo when such persons are getting dressed again after using the toilet bowl. With such a risky proposition it may be wise to fully shade their nether regions while dressing or undressing so as to avoid issues of global warming, especially in conjunction with the potential for methane production.  :P
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oex

We are all of us insane, just to varying degrees and intelligently balanced through networking

http://www.hereford.tv

baltoro

...This is one of those REALLY PROFOUND threads, that threatens our collective sense of our own identity,...
...I think GOD, as traditionally defined, is unknowable as a direct experience,...as a sensory perception,...
(Otherwise, why would we be confused about this for thousands of years, with no resolution ???)
...The crucial question is: Why would GOD, in his infinite wisdom,...do such a thing ???
My thinking is that: He wouldn't,...unless, of course, he's not really a GOD,...
But, this is tangential reasoning,...it doesn't really provide a certain answer to the question.
Baltoro

vanjast

Quote from: baltoro on June 30, 2011, 11:53:07 PM
.., that threatens our collective sense of our own identity,...
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We are BORG!