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Title: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: GregL on July 27, 2006, 11:16:42 PM
MSDN Library May 2006 Edition (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=373930CB-A3D7-4EA5-B421-DD6818DC7C41&displaylang=en) is available for download.

Apparently Microsoft has decided to make the MSDN Library a free download now and in the future.

This Microsoft employee talks about it in his blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/robcaron/archive/2006/07/26/678897.aspx).

Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: hutch-- on July 28, 2006, 02:25:17 AM
Thanks for the link Greg, all I have to do now is see when I have time to download 3 ISO files.  :bg
Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: hutch-- on July 28, 2006, 04:49:13 AM
hmmmmm,

That was far more painless than I expected, the three ISO files are on a high bandwidth server and with the ADSL I have here in OZ, I got the three of them down in under 40 minutes.
Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: GregL on July 28, 2006, 05:25:10 AM
Hutch,

Yeah, it wasn't too bad. It took about an hour to get all three ISOs here, I'm on cable. I haven't looked at it yet, I wonder how much of it is .NET stuff and how much of it is Windows API. The .NET information seems to be growing and the Windows API information seems to be dwindling with each new release.

Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: jdoe on July 28, 2006, 04:16:59 PM
Hi,

I always download the latest Windows SDK to get the Windows API reference but what is the difference between SDK and MSDN Library. The latest SDK (Server 2003 R2) is not really old but if the MSDN Library is a more complete reference, maybe it worth to be downloaded. Thats what I would like to know.

Thanks

Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: Mark Jones on July 28, 2006, 07:42:22 PM
Just a note that the install will not work if you combine all three ISOs into one... I just tried that so I could burn it all to one DVD, but the install failed.
Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: PBrennick on July 28, 2006, 10:55:32 PM
Has anybody installed it yet?

Paul
Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: GregL on July 29, 2006, 01:38:31 AM
jdoe,

The difference between the MSDN Library and the Platform SDK is that the MSDN Library has all the information for all the various Microsoft compilers and development tools along with the .NET Framework and Windows API information. So, if you only need the Windows API information, you are better off sticking with the Platform SDK.

Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: lingo on July 29, 2006, 12:03:45 PM
"Just a note that the install will not work if you combine all three ISOs into one...
I just tried that so I could burn it all to one DVD, but the install failed."


I combined them on my hard drive too and started Setup
My original MSDN was updated successfully to version 8.0.50727.42 RTM

Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: Shantanu Gadgil on July 29, 2006, 06:20:49 PM
There exists a method to combine the VS.NET 2003/2005 and the MSDN CDs into one mega dvd by modifying the main ".msi" file of each to "make it look" for a media with the appropriate volume label.

I have done it for VS.NET 2003 (3 CD) and MSDN Jan 2006 (3 CD).

Probably the same technique could work here? (I am downloading the May 2006 MSDN tonight; will try it then)
Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: Shantanu Gadgil on July 31, 2006, 03:22:02 PM
Yep!!! Confirm that!!!  :U :U It works!!!  :thumbu :thumbu

(It will always install fine after merging off a fixed disk, the problem was when that combined stuff was burnt onto a DVD)

Here's how:

Copy Disc 1, 2 and 3 into one directory (Keep the autorun files from the first disc)
Using the "Orca" program modify the msdn.msi file like so:
   In the "Media" listitem, set the VoulmeLabel of whichever items that exist to whatever you plan to keep the volume label of the DVD (so...change MSDNVENUD1, MSDNVENUD2 and MSDNVENUD3 to MSDNVENU and then keep the volume label of the DVD as MSDNVENU)

Thats it...you are done!!!

Just make an ISO and check that it installs fine (using something like Daemon Tools, etc)

Enjoy!!!

EDIT: -- Forgot the credits, sorry!!!
http://www.overclockers.com/tips1212/
This one shows us (in detail) to make a single .NET + MSDN DVD!!!
Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: jdoe on July 31, 2006, 03:53:31 PM
Quote from: Greg on July 29, 2006, 01:38:31 AM
jdoe,

The difference between the MSDN Library and the Platform SDK is that the MSDN Library has all the information for all the various Microsoft compilers and development tools along with the .NET Framework and Windows API information. So, if you only need the Windows API information, you are better off sticking with the Platform SDK.



Thanks Greg for the information.
I could have download the MSDN Library to see by myself but I only have a mid-range cable connection with 1Go download a month.
Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: Mark Jones on July 31, 2006, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: lingo on July 29, 2006, 12:03:45 PM
I combined them on my hard drive too and started Setup

If that's the case, perhaps the volume label simply has to be something other than "MSDNVENUD1"?
Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: Shantanu Gadgil on August 01, 2006, 05:05:42 AM
QuoteIf that's the case, perhaps the volume label simply has to be something other than "MSDNVENUD1"?
No...no...not really. The merged thing _always_ works from the HDD. (The installer must be checking this, I guess)

As I said, inside the "msdn.msi" there are few files which are expected from a media of some particular title. When making our own single DVD, we just have to modify those to the volumelabel we are going to put for the DVD!  :bg
Title: Re: MSDN Library May 2006 Edition - Free download
Post by: alksentrs on August 03, 2006, 10:58:20 PM
What is wrong with Windows XP SP1 - why does it have to be SP2 ?
Do I have to upgrade to SP2 just to use the MSDN library ?

Has any user of SP1 tried to use it and have any problems ?