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Title: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: Rockphorr on October 06, 2011, 05:59:11 AM
 :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: MichaelW on October 06, 2011, 06:55:58 AM
It's sad that he only made it to age 56.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: Bill Cravener on October 06, 2011, 09:42:25 AM
My father died at the age of 56. Though I know nothing about Steve Jobs other then he created Apple computers that's much to young for anyone to die.
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: Farabi on October 06, 2011, 11:02:52 AM
That is sad.

We have to take care bill gates and linus torvald more.
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: Astro on October 06, 2011, 01:28:31 PM
Rest in peace, Steve. Another pioneer lost too early.  :(
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: TmX on October 06, 2011, 02:05:14 PM
As already stated in Apple's website, "the world has lost an amazing human being".
I think I only know a few tech leaders who have great vision and such a relentless perfectionist. Steve is one of them.
Farewell.
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: dedndave on October 06, 2011, 02:12:36 PM
rest in peace Steve
in a way, that marks the end of an era
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: jj2007 on October 06, 2011, 05:30:39 PM
German newspaper Der Spiegel titles Seven Billion People without Jobs (http://www.spiegel.de/spam/0,1518,790223,00.html)

I have never owned any product from Apple, and I am not tempted, but nonetheless I guess we can all agree that he was a genius of the rare sort.
Rest in Peace, Steve Jobs.
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: xanatose on October 06, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
Sorry if I wake up on a Cynical A-hole mode. But I am sick of looking the news at CNN and MSNBC that try to make Jobs look like he invented everything from the mouse to the iPhone. He was just the equivalent of Edison. A CEO that takes credit for all the accomplishments of its workers.  Well maybe a little more, a great salesman that made people believe that whatever Apple made was humanity greatest achievement.

Mouse - Xerox
Original Apple - Wozniak
McIntouch - Jef Raskin team.
iPod -  Jon Rubinstein team.
Touch Screen : http://inventors.about.com/od/tstartinventions/a/Touch-Screen.htm
iPhone : http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071017202242AATg7RN

Overall, a death of a salesman, not of an inventor. Not to say that a salesman is not important, but calling them inventors, is a disrespect to real inventors.

Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: oex on October 06, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
....
Quote from: TmX on October 06, 2011, 02:05:14 PM
I think I only know a few tech leaders who have great vision and such a relentless perfectionist.

If only all of us perfectionists with great vision were tech leaders :lol

Quote from: xanatose on October 06, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
Sorry if I wake up on a Cynical A-hole mode. But I am sick of looking the news at CNN and MSNBC that try to make Jobs look like he invented everything from the mouse to the iPhone.

Ah I agree with you however I am always in a Cynical A-hole mode :lol

In the UK we have the 'independant' BBC that is 'forbidden' to promote any product.... (In the interests of good reporting and nutrality) however basically what this means is that they promote Apple and Google and other top brands (because they are top brands and therefore 'newsworthy').... Steve Jobs is just another Michael Jackson.... Someone so protected by the media machine that he could never have done anything wrong however heinious the crime.... He was a demi-god.... In death a BBC saint.... Only I do wonder the number of people who died for his success.... Wonder their stories plunging from buildings (etc)....

The news coverage is so warped these days.... thank god he was an American citizen!
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: jj2007 on October 06, 2011, 08:00:45 PM
Quote from: xanatose on October 06, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
Overall, a death of a salesman, not of an inventor. Not to say that a salesman is not important, but calling them inventors, is a disrespect to real inventors.

So in which category would you put Dior, Gucci, Lagerfeld, Pininfarina etc? Just curious :bg
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: oex on October 08, 2011, 08:39:08 AM
I would probably be sued for copywrite infringement or somesuch if I took a snapshot of the webpage but I woke up to this this morning and was infuriated....

On the BBC news technology page there are 11 articles on Apple and Steve Jobs (about half the total Saturday coverage OF EVERYTHING)

Tributes flood in for Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs - 'a brilliant maverick'
The cult of Steve Jobs
Sorry Tim - Rory Cellan-Jones apologises to Apple's new boss
Apple plans Jobs commemoration
Tim Cook, Steve Jobs and an apology
What made Steve Jobs Unique
In pictures: Apple fans mourn
Apple unveils refreshed iPhone 4S
Fifth iPhone ready for launch
Click examines the impact on the world of technology and the legacy of Steve Jobs

Thank god the BBC license payers pay for UNBIASed reporting

Now granted a few of these are the "Most read stories of the week".... But is there any wonder when there is so much coverage? :lol.... This is called "Making the news".... Luckly the BBC has a program once a week (30 minutes) where viewers send in complaints about bias and bad coverage and the interviewer interviews a BBC executive who reassures us that actually for some obscure reason their coverage was not biased....

Not to be biased.... For all of you Apple fans here is the link :lol
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology/
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: sinsi on October 08, 2011, 09:06:53 AM
Front page of The Advertiser (local paper) yesterday.
QuoteJobs almost single-handedly created the personal computing industry...
Hyperbole much?

For my money Bill did more but Steve was the ultimate PTB :clap:
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: hutch-- on October 08, 2011, 09:32:20 AM
I think you can blame the PC on IBM initially by accident and Microsoft later by intent. Apple were always also-rans in the PC market.
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: RedJim on October 09, 2011, 01:04:17 PM
Very sad about Steve Jobs but we seem to have forgotten about Steve Wosniak and that is its own kind of sadness.
RedJim
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: GregL on October 09, 2011, 10:02:05 PM
QuoteI have never owned any product from Apple, and I am not tempted, but nonetheless I guess we can all agree that he was a genius of the rare sort.
Rest in Peace, Steve Jobs.

Ditto for me.


QuoteVery sad about Steve Jobs but we seem to have forgotten about Steve Wosniak and that is its own kind of sadness.

I agree.
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: donkey on November 04, 2011, 04:40:40 PM
After a month of incessant commentary on Steve Jobs and how he's responsible for everything that is good in the world, I have to ask myself what ever happened to Bill Gates. Since stepping down from MS Gates has given away billions and is actively trying to make the world a better place instead of making a sexier cell phone. Gates is no longer working to amass a fortune, instead he is using that fortune for the benefit of those who have no voice - the impoverished people of the world. Give Jobs his due, he made some cool toys for us to play with and was a genius, but Gates is by far the real hero and like the greatest of heroes he does not seek fortune, fame or recognition for his work, he simply wants to make the world a better place.
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: Bill Cravener on November 04, 2011, 06:21:39 PM
Hi Edgar, :bg

I agree with you as to Gates and what he is doing with the rest of his life. Jobs a genus? Well perhaps in a marketing sort of way, yes. What did he ever create or invent? Like Billy it seems it was others that did the creating for both of those fellows. Thing is I don't think Jobs had a caring bone in his body other then for himself. Bill Gates wants his legacy seen as helping others and changing the world via philanthropy while Steve Jobs saw his ultimate legacy as building a great company.

Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: dedndave on November 05, 2011, 03:46:32 AM
gates is one of the wealthiest people in the world
in my opinion, he is doing the "minimum required" to not be seen as a total scrooge
the difference between gates and jobs is...
bill is still alive - steve isn't
bill has an opportunity to look good, or at least, better than he did
steve no longer has that capability
Title: Re: Steve Jobs dead
Post by: xanatose on November 08, 2011, 08:44:58 PM
Quote from: dedndave on November 05, 2011, 03:46:32 AM
gates is one of the wealthiest people in the world
in my opinion, he is doing the "minimum required" to not be seen as a total scrooge
the difference between gates and jobs is...
bill is still alive - steve isn't
bill has an opportunity to look good, or at least, better than he did
steve no longer has that capability

Another difference is that Jobs had the opportunity to do good both during its lifetime. And after its lifetime, by donating its money after death or creating a foundation, like Andrew Carnegie did on its time)\. Yet he choose not to do so.

He was a douche in life, he is a douche in death.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-02-23/tech/29962566_1_steve-jobs-mona-simpson-biological-parents/2

Specially like the way that, back in the day, he lied to Wozniak on how much money Atari was paying for each chip they could take away from the design. They agreed it to split it 50%. Yet the total was $5,000 and he told Wozniak that it was $700. So he was not only a douchebag, but also the worse kind of thief. The one that will steal from a friend.