This woman scares the freaking bejesus out of me. How she can be seriously considered as a presidential candidate is frightening to say the least and evidence of how exceedingly bitter our political process has become between parties here in the US. The republican right and evangelicals hold great power in the US. Add to that the current fact the republicans really have no one else worth voting for other then Michele Bachmann we could be in big trouble. It could happen! :tdown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9bvreW08X0
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/124633114.html
Religion has no place in politics, yet this woman says her faith guides her political actions.
We are no better off than we were during the time of Galileo etc.. ::)
When will people get some b@lls and stand up for what THEY want, instead of doing what they think some mythical "thing" wants or would do?
If I went down the street saying I had an angel sat on my shoulder telling me what to do I'd be sent to the nut house! I find it totally bizarre that these people can run our frickin' countries and everyone acts as if it is fine!!!
(I say this living in one of the worlds only Theocracy's).
Having a pretend friend as an adult is fine, but leave it out of anything serious.
Michele Bachmann is the number-one God-recommended 2012 GOP presidential candidate. She is an intense fundamentalist Christian and that point alone is just down-right scary to me. If this woman were to be elected President this country is in big trouble (as if we weren't already). We could see the return of McCarthyism, the return of internment camps for gays, lesbians and perhaps us none believers of an imaginary god. Damn scary stuff!
Bill,
I have to agree with you entirely. But, what are the Republicans going to promote as a campaign onslaught for the hearts and minds of American citizens ???
'Don't think about how much damage the last Republican administration did,...Vote Republican'
I can see the bumper stickers: 'I'm STUPID. I'm voting Republican'.
...But,...seriously,...how did Michele Bachmann get elected to the House of Representatives in the first place ???
:eek Was the entire population of Minnesota drunk ??? :eek
What REALLY amazes me is that Barack Obama is running for re-election. If I were him,...I'd hire a film crew, dress up in a stolen police officer's uniform, select a citizen at random,...and arrest him. And, then, plead GUILTY. Impersonating a police officer is a felony (even if you're the Commander-in-Chief), and, convicted felons are NOT qualified to run for President of the United States.
baltoro,
Man I don't know or understand how she got elected. She's obviously batshit crazy yet there are enough batshit crazy people here in the US to get her elected as President. Obama is the first black prez and batshit Michele could be the first white woman prez. If many folks stay home out of shear disgust and not vote next election she could win. I'm of the mind myself to just stay home next election because Obama is a disappointment when it comes to ending our warmongering and yet I better vote cause she's batshit crazy!
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Minnesota is very heavy with hard-nosed christians, primarily Swedish and Norwegian decent
same is true of Wisconsin, Northern Michigan and, to a lesser degree, Iowa
I know what you mean Dave central Pennsylvania is the same way, most are batshit crazy!! (http://www.quickersoft.com/pictures/foufougly.gif)
the south is another place that is thick with right-wing nut-jobs - lol
only, they are a completely different flavour of nut
when i say "south", i really mean "hillbilly" :bg
so, it applies southern Illinois/Indiana/Ohio (may as well be Kentucky), Penn, WVA, - even parts of NY
these are likely to be Baptists, though not always
they always vote republican, no matter what
they never open a newspaper or watch the news on TV, not that those sources aren't biased
they're about as informed as a flea on a dogs back
yet, they are dedicated to the republican party - many of them don't even know what it means :lol
So,...Bill and Dave,...
I think we've arrived at a consensus,...the United States has WAY TOO MANY STUPID PEOPLE,... :eek
As a foreigner looking in, anything from the Tea party looks risky. Its a phenomenon referred to in OZ as "believing your own bullsh*t" and after hearing a few of their candidates crowing after the last election, it has a ring of truth to it. Its unfortunate that the Republican Party has fallen so low in what it has to offer, they have had great Presidents from Abe Lincoln to IKE but very little after that. After their big election win a couple of elections ago the Democrats quickly sold their arse and betrayed ordinary Americans who had trusted them to fix things after the Bush regime so the choices are truly lousy.
You are not alone here, our Labor government is quickly achieving pariah status, the Liberal opposition are equally unpopular and the Green are a grab-bag of the old left re-packaged as environmentalists where all they are after is an international tax that will drive a vast number of people into poverty. Effectively old left elitism funded by the patsies who voted for them. I gather the place to live if you don't mind the sleaze is Belize, at least you know that place is crooked and free of the moralistic bullsh*t that pervades western politics.
The GOP is relentless in its pursuit of the "American public be damned" so that next year they can regain national dominance. As the article below explains they are by/for the rich and religious right. My opinion is they are as un-American as one can be!! :tdown
Republicans: The Single Greatest Threat to America (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sandy-goodman/republicans-the-single-gr_b_881444.html)
unamerican is right, Bill
it really pissed me off when these same assholes had the nerve to call John Kerry "unpatriotic"
not that i was any big supporter of John, but Bush's mud-slinging buddies really plastered him
with their other hand, they screw the american public out of billions of dollars
THAT is unpatriotic - look at the mess we're in, now
Good article Bill. :U
Steve,
Yes, I found it truthful and a very good read. Like the author stated America must not allow the Republican Party to win in 2012. We could very well see the end of SS and Medicare if they do win. In just under two years I can sign up for early retirement and hope to get as much of my life long paid in SS monies back before I kick the bucket. :bg
What I get tired of hearing is ANY politicien saying "The people want" this, and the polls show the complete opposite.
I have to confess,that my spelling really sucks,and I use google to tell me the proper spelling for things....I am a dumb American,what can I say..its the schools fault :'(
anunitu,
I use Steve's forum spell checker so I don't appear like a total idiot. It catches most miss spells but does choke on a few words though. It doesn't matter most people get the drift and overlook miss spells.
As to "The people want" statement in your post politicians do what corporate money tells them to do not what we the people elect them to do. They are all pigs, everyone of them! :tdown
American politics has always pipelined an enormous amount of bullshit into the minds of American citizens.
...And,...all the wrong people have the egomaniacal qualities that compel them to engage the adversarial insanity of our partisan political campaign system to run for elected democratic office.
Really,...it's all about fundraising. I found this informative website: Open Secrets (http://www.opensecrets.org/index.php), that provides non-partisan financial data on all political elections.
Here is a blog entry from that site: How Much Cash Does Michele Bachmann Have? (http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/06/politiquizz-6-27-11.html)
Bill,
My great fear is if the Republicans get control of both houses and the presidency as well that they will terminally PHUK the US so it can never recover again. I think its very unfortunate that the Democrats wasted the chance to fix the US while they had the chance and support which in turn allowed the rise of the Tea Party style of Republican. It fascinated me back in the Bush era that so many of these guys owned villas in Europe while they were destroying the US economy with wars, taxes and the phony war on terror. The debacle in New Orleans made the point that they could find US taxpayers money to fund 2 unwinnable wars but could not fund the reconstruction of New Orleans after the flooding. We have just had massive flooding in Queensland and the cleanup and repair is being funded by our Federal government, it is rediculous that the US could not do the same for their own people.
QuoteMy great fear is if the Republicans get control of both houses and the presidency
as well that they will terminally PHUK the US so it can never recover again.
too late - that perfectly describes the bush administration
well - not sure they had the majority in both houses
but, it didn't matter because they didn't play by the rules, anyways
they went and did what they wanted to without senate approval
there is an issue that looms large,that no one addresses. As when we entered the industrial revolution, the whole social structure changed. With the Tech Revolution, at some point we must change what the economy is, the model we now hold as sacred will be our ondoing. Robots doing a lot of what used to be human work,and moving in that direction everyday. People get laid off from a job, that simply does not exist anymore. A skill they spent their whole lives learning becomes obsolete. At some point even the intellectual jobs become taken over by machines. Skills that were once common,now are concidered special,good carpenters can sell HAND made furniture for very large amounts.
Even though Michele Bachmann enjoys great popularity I don't think we much to worry about as far as her ever getting into the White House. Michele comes from the bizarre alternate reality of "Christian Nationalism" that pushes revisionist Christian history ( the world is only 6000 years old , evolution is a fraud , science is a trick perpetrated by Satan , the founding fathers were directed by god to form a perfect Christian nation in America, etc. ) crazy anti-communist conspiracies and dominionism. She has made enough crazy statements and done enough outright weird things over her political career to disqualify herself in any sort of national election ( they do love her in the more backwards parts of the country , though ). I think she will run strong in some primaries , but will ultimately be beaten by a more moderate opponent ( Mitt Romney? ) .
The election in 2012 will be another pivotal competition in American history. Hopefully the Right cannot seize on a crisis ( the national dept , unemployment , etc. ) and use this to crush the middle class and the poor and disassemble the welfare state that working Americans have worked so hard to build. I don't think working Americans are stupid enough to go along with the Right-wing goal to destroy the middle class ( or are they? ). I guess we'll see in 2012.....
Quote from: hutch-- on June 30, 2011, 01:34:32 AM
I think its very unfortunate that the Democrats wasted the chance to fix the US while they had the chance and support which in turn allowed the rise of the Tea Party style of Republican.
They didn't waste the opportunity. They're equally incompetent. Each party does well in a particular set of metrics and they then parade those around claiming that they have the solution. Step back and look at the whole and you see that none of them have a clue on how to take care of the entire system. The complexity of the system as a whole has grown to the point that it has become unmanageable for us simple humans. As much as I dislike the pain and chaos of trying to simplify the system it's ultimately our only chance. Continuing on the path that both parties have set out for us leads to a slow, but certain destruction.
not only that, but they were handed a bag of total shit
extreme measures were required to straighten out the mess that gw bush left behind
it didn't matter which party inherited it
...Sorry,...resurrecting an old thread,...
I've found this bizarre collection of: Michele Bachmann's Craziest Quotes (http://www.zimbio.com/Michele+Bachmann's+Craziest+Quotes) You have to wonder after reading this stuff,...just what kind of medication Michele Bachmann is taking,...and why isn't it available to the general public ???
...Also,...here is a collection of Late Night jokes about Michele Bachmann: Michele Bachmann Jokes (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicans/a/Michele-Bachmann-Jokes.htm)
This joke by Jimmy Kimmel,...I just loved: "Michele Bachmann is kind of like Sarah Palin but without the charisma — or marksmanship. You know, maybe we should stop telling kids that anyone can grow up to be president of the United States."
I was going to say Rick Perry scares me worse, but I don't know, they both scare the hell out of me. They're both nut cases in my opinion.
GREG,
The Los Angeles Times agrees with you. Last Sunday, they published this editorial: The Problem with Perry (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinionla/la-ed-0828-perry-20110828,0,2977803.story)
A lot of the problem stems from religious fanatics, that see through their own set of beer goggles(prayer goggles)? I have encountered this from religious types before. You could lay out the reality of things in the most profond way,useing scientific fact and natural logic,and they would not change at all. They are investd in their beliefs to such an extent,logic cannot penetrate. To change for tham is to lose a grasp of their vision that God is going to personally cover their ass if and when disaster strikes.
:bg
Governor Perry's biggest problem is Rick Perry (http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2011/aug/15/governor-perrys-biggest-problem-rick-perry/)
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Quote from: cman on June 30, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
The election in 2012 will be another pivotal competition in American history. Hopefully the Right cannot seize on a crisis ( the national dept , unemployment , etc. ) and use this to crush the middle class and the poor and disassemble the welfare state that working Americans have worked so hard to build. I don't think working Americans are stupid enough to go along with the Right-wing goal to destroy the middle class ( or are they? ). I guess we'll see in 2012.....
But CMAN fifty years of the welfare state have gotten us into this fiscal mess we are in now. Don't you think its time we stop waisting the money?
Quote from: Bill Cravener on September 01, 2011, 12:23:26 PM
Governor Perry's biggest problem is Rick Perry (http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2011/aug/15/governor-perrys-biggest-problem-rick-perry/)
Bill when is Obama going to grow a pair and order the deportation of his illegal alien Uncle Omar?
Just like in 2008 when it was brought to BO's that his aunt Zeituni Onyango, was living in this country illegally in public housing, he didnt do a damn FN thing.
Things in this country are bad enough without having to support freeloading, lawbreaking illegals.
I guess its OK for the Prez to not honor his vows of office to uphold the constitution and the laws of this land?
Quote from: rags on September 06, 2011, 01:50:17 AM
Bill when is Obama going to grow a pair and order the deportation of his illegal alien Uncle Omar?
Just like in 2008 when it was brought to BO's that his aunt Zeituni Onyango, was living in this country illegally in public housing, he didnt do a damn FN thing.
Uncle Omar? Aunt Onyango? Oh brother! Is that the best you can come up with?
:bg
> I guess its OK for the Prez to not honor his vows of office to uphold the constitution and the laws of this land?
I guess it was OK for the Bush regime to consider the US constitution was just a "Piece Of Paper", destroy the freedom of US citizens with the patriot Act 1 and 2, start two unwinnable wars that brought the US to its knees and got thousands of young Americans killed, reduced the credibility of the US to a Pariah state and in its death throes fleece the US taxpayers for TRILLIONS to bail out the banks.
Nah, Obama may have his problems trying to clean up the mess left by 8 years of the Republicans but it really could get worse, just put another batch of loonies back in control of the US and it will collapse.
Not that I'm defending them, but the USA Patriot Acts were acts of Congress.
that's true, Michael
if you remember back to when the patriot act was passed, bush and his buddies pushed it through congress
they used fear as a motivator in a couple ways:
1) the people were told that the patriot act was necessary to protect them from terrorism
2) congressmen were assured of receiving bad press if they did not vote to pass the bill
the last thing a congressman wants is to be labeled as "unpatriotic"
the same tactic bush used to be elected and re-elected
"Patriot Act" is a huge misnomer - lol
i can't think of anything less patriotic, except maybe haliburton's rape of the economy
I think it would be great if we had someone like DAVE as President.
Dave would hate it, of course,...and, it would drive him terminally insane,...but, we need someone sensible,..to keep us from doing incredibly stupid things all the time,... :eek
...Otherwise,...I think the human race is a direct trajectory with the all-time most well-deserved Darwin Award,...
big business would not be at all happy with me
they'd shoot me in the head faster than JFK - lol
Well,...you'd have to be sneaky,...and do some kind of Wizard of OZ thing,...where nobody really knows who you are,...
In Arthur C. Clarke's "Childhood's End",...extraterrestrials save the human race from themselves,...
You could impersonate an Extraterrestrial,...Peter would probably rat you out,...but, it would be alot of fun for awhile,...
...Zara could be your official spokesperson,...
I'm so excited about this that I want to make an immediate campaign contribution,... :toothy
i'd happily accept the contribution
however, as with any politician, don't expect much :P
DAVE !!!
You are clearly,...the man for the job,...
Yeah !!! It's either DAVE or ARMAGEDDON,... :eek
Quotehowever, as with any politician, don't expect much
i should qualify that....
don't expect much unless it's at least 6 figures :lol
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it's already been done....
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