What choice do I have????

[jj2007]

3rd world perspective....

per litre price of petrol (gas) to R 10.40 (+/- $ 1.38 ). Food prices have sky rocketed as a result

Hmmm.... your cows drink petrol? Seriously: Thank your government that they do tax fuel. This generates revenue for roads, schools, hospitals, and it pushes consumption down, thus lowering your dependance from the OPEC. By the way: Here in Europe gas costs 2.16 per litre, or exactly 9 US$ per gallon. We do have angry car drivers but we do not have a problem, because as mentioned above, the relative increase was small, and our economies have had many decades for adapting to high fuel prices. Our cars consume a lot less, and we have a well-developed public transport system. Guess why General Motors never exported U.S. cars to Europe...

Couple this with Zimbabwe and you have a recipe for disaster.

I hope nobody mistakes me for a fan of George doubleU, but in one point I share his views: The African disease is bad governance, i.e. greedy and corrupt government cliques. And the donor community is working hard to keep this system alive (attention: IRONY!!).

[shankle]

In my humble opinion this is the Year for the "PROTEST VOTE"!
There should be a "NONE OF THE ABOVE" box on every office
that is presented.

When I hear the phrase "YOU'RE THROWING YOUR VOTE AWAY",
the proper response to that is how can any sane person continue to
vote for the Idiots presented when we are losing our country by
continuing to support Democrats/Republicans.

[xanatose]

What makes anyone of you think that they would not steal the elections as it was done in the last 2?

3 choices.

1. Stay in your world of fantasy and believe that politicians represent you. (They dont, they represent whoever gives them money.)
2. Give up and just live your life realizing that the game is rigged and your vote does not count.
3. Unite, organize and fight back.

Democracy has a mortal flaw, the vote of the informed have the same weight as the vote of the uninformed. As only a fool will make a uninformed decision and most people are uninformed, the result of democracy is almost always foolishness. The only exception is when the informed have spend time and explain the uninformed in the hopes that they do not buy the BS that the politicians say.

The media is already being bought and paid for. So the only options is the people itself. It people does not organize and fight, this country will go down the drain an will try to take the world with it. If you throw a frog into boiling water, it will jump out of it. But if you put the frog into water, and slowly raise the temperature, the frog will cook alive. This country has being deal like the frog. Instead of taking all our civil liberties at once, they are doing it slowly and making us believe they are doing it for our own well. Heck, there are even sheep that praises when there are less lliberties.

Just see the words of Thomas Jefferson and compare with the words of todays people:

http://jpetrie.myweb.uga.edu/TJ.html

My favorite is: "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

That comes from a man that was president of the USA.

[shankle]

Hi Xanatose,
I agree with you completely, especially where you say that they are taking our freedoms
away slowly. The fools out there don't even realize what's happening and probably
could care less until they can no longer get a job and gasoline is $25+ a gallon.

As a side, have you heard of the huge oil reserves in the Dakotas and under the rocky mountains?
They are larger than what's in the Arab countries. I wonder how long before we can start to
use some of it?

Protest vote and put all in Congress on trial for treson.

[GregL]

As a side, have you heard of the huge oil reserves in the Dakotas and under the rocky mountains?
They are larger than what's in the Arab countries. I wonder how long before we can start to
use some of it?

It's a huge load of BS. It's oil shale, it's very costly to extract oil from it and you have to destroy the countryside to get it.  :tdown   :tdown

I agree with this article, Kicking the habit: Headlong rush to oil shale won't end energy woes

[shankle]

Hi Greg,
I didn't know about the article you posted. From it, it seems that more research
is needed.
Just goes to show that a lot of stuff on the internet can't be trusted.
I would be interested in your opinion of the article.
Here is where I got my info from:
-------------------

Could this extend into Nebraska too?

Subject: Oil in the Dakotas and Montana

WHO KNEW????

THIS WILL AMAZE YOU !

Subject: Got to read this one

Ever heard of the Bakken Formation? GOOGLE it. I did, and
again, BLEW my mind. The U.S. Geological Service issued a
report in April ('08) that only scientists and
oilmen/women knew was coming, but man was it big. It was a
revised report (hadn't been updated since '95) on
how much oil was in this area of the western 2/3 of North
Dakota; western South Dakota; and extreme eastern Montana
... Check THIS out:

The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since
Alaska's Prudhoe Bay, and has the potential to
eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil. The
Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates it at 503
billion barrels. Even if just 10% of the oil is
recoverable... At $107 a barrel, we're looking at a
resource base worth more than $5.3 trillion. 'When I
first briefed legislators on this, you could practically
see their jaws hit the floor. They had no idea.' says
Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature's financial
analyst. 'This sizeable find is now the
highest-producing onshore oil field found in the past 56
years,' reports The Pittsburgh Post Gazette. It's a
formation known as the Williston Basin, but is more commonly
referred to as the 'Bakken.' And it stretches from
Northern Montana, through North Dakota and into Canada.

For years, U.S. Oil exploration has been considered a dead
end. Even the 'Big Oil' companies gave up searching
for major oil wells decades ago. However, a recent
technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's
massive reserves... And we now have access of up to 500
billion barrels. And because this is light, sweet oil,
those billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER
BARREL!

That's enough crude to fully fuel the American economy
for 41 years straight.

2. [And if THAT didn't throw you on the floor, then
this next one should - because it's from TWO YEARS AGO,
people!]

U.S. Oil Discovery- Largest Reserve in the World!
Stansberry Report Online - 4/20/2006

Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky
Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the
world is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005
President Bush mandated its extraction.

[(???) What the!??]

They reported this stunning news: We have more oil inside
our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth.
Here are the official estimates:

-8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
-18-times as much oil as Iraq
-21-times as much oil as Kuwait
-22-times as much oil as Iran
-500-times as much oil as Yemen - and it's all right
here in the Western United States.

[HOW can this BE!? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this!?
Because we've not D E M A N D E D Legislation to come
out of Washington allowing its extraction, that's why!]


James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says we've
got more oil in this very compact area than the entire
Middle East -more than 2 TRILLION barrels. Untapped.
That's more than all the proven oil reserves of crude
oil in the world today, reports The Denver Post.

----
Don't think 'Big Oil' will drop its price -
even with this find? Think again! It's all about the
competitive marketplace, and if they can extract it (here)
for less, they can afford to sell it for less - and if they
DON'T, others will. It will come down - it has to.
----


[Got your attention/ire up yet? Hope so! Now, while
you're thinking about it ... And hopefully P.O'd,
do this:

3. Take 5-10 minutes and compose an e-mail; fax or good
old-fashioned letter to our elected officials in Washington
... And their respected leaders. We'll start with them,
and here's how you can send them your e-mail/fax,
DEMANDING the immediate Legislation/an Energy PLAN that
calls for tapping into these (OUR OWN!) Reserves, as well
as allowing for the offshore drilling for OUR oil, in OUR
offshore waters and Inter-continental shelf .. Not to
mention Alaska. Technology ain't what it used to be
people (ever had arthroscopic surgery?). They can
surgically extract OUR oil, and get us on the way to at
least some measure of Energy independence.

You don't take a little time to do this, then you
should stifle yourself the next time you want to complain
about gas prices ... Because by doing NOTHING, you've
forfeited your right to complain.

Use the following link to contact your representatives.

http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/


   

[jj2007]

Ever heard of the Bakken Formation?

Fantastic indeed. Read this. Read it carefully, and read it all.

[shankle]

Hi jj2007,
Thanks for a very informative article, although depressing.
That shoots it for the U.S.
Maybe we'll have hydrogen cars in 20 years.