What's Needed

shankle · October 20, 2005, 12:34:16 PM

I assume that the whole purpose of programming is to market what you write.

Recently I paid $120 for one year on a web site. They had a web site builder. Of
course it wouldn't do what I needed which to be able to upload programs and have
links so the users could download them. It was a simple 1 page effort. I contacted their
web design team and the price for what I wanted was $350. My programs would sell
in the range of $5 to $10. Needless to say this unreasonable.

What is needed is a web site for programmers to market their programs for a reasonable
amount. All programmers regardless of the language they write in.
I'm sure others must be having the same problem that I have.
JPS

Eóin · October 20, 2005, 02:26:55 PM

Check out GeekISP, you'll get all the standard stuff and no bandwidth limits.

Bieb · October 20, 2005, 04:20:51 PM

As for making a site, just learn HTML and CSS and do it yourself. For someone who's already done real programming, it should be a no brainer.

shankle · October 23, 2005, 01:10:16 AM

Thanks all for the advice and help.
I am including my first attempt at HTML. Please give me your thoughts. Do I need to do
anything with "META" commands?? What else have I forgot???
Purpose is to upload my programs to a server and have users be able to download them.
I'm still confused as to what goes in "index.html". Why would I need more than one page??

<html>
<title>XXXSOFTWARE</title>
<body bgcolor="fff8dc" text="000000">
<center><h2>XXXSOFTWARE</h2></center>
<center>Please Read The "README" Files</center>

<center>BLAH1</center>
<center>Blah2</center>
<center>Blah3</center>
<center>Blah4</center>
<center>name1, name2, name3, name4</center>

<center> <a href="http//www.xxxsoftware.com/home">[HOME]</a> <a href="http//www.xxxsoftware.com/blah1">[BLAH1]</a>
<a href="http//www.xxxsoftware.com/blah2">[BLAH2]</a>
<a href="http//www.xxxsoftware.com/blah3">[BLAH3]</a>
<a href="http//www.xxxsoftware.com/blah4">[BLAH4]
</a></center>

<center>Direct Inquiries to: </center>
<center>xxxxxx@bellsouth.net </center>
<center>XXX CCC DDD EEEE </center>
</body>
</html>

JPS

drhowarddrfine · October 23, 2005, 12:50:04 PM

Just to get you off on the right foot, you are using deprecated html tags (not used anymore). Yeah, they'll work but ... You want to work on keeping your content and presentation seperate, ie, write your html with content in mind, then go back and style it with CSS. Always validate your code. Validation is error checking. Also use the CSS validator at w3.org.

And always design using Firefox. Then you know your code is working correctly to web standards. Then you can adjust for IEs quirks and bugs later. (Never design to IE first! It will screw you up!)

Read the standards at w3.org for html4.01 and css2.1 w3schools is supposed to be a good place to learn.

Code Select

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"   "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>XXXSOFTWARE</title>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css">
<style type="text/css">
body{
background-color:#fff8dc;
}

h2{
text-align: center;
font-weight: bold;
}

p
{
text-align:center;
color:#8b0000;
}

p.fontblack
{
color:black;
}
</style>
</head>

<body>
<h2>XXXSOFTWARE</h2>
<p>Please Read The "README" Files</p>

<p class="fontblack">BLAH1</p>
<p class="fontblack">Blah2</p>
<p class="fontblack">Blah3</p>
<p class="fontblack">Blah4</p>
<p class="fontblack">name1, name2, name3, name4</p>

<p><a href="http//www.XXXsoftware.com/home">[HOME]</a> <a href="http//www.XXXsoftware.com/blah1">[BLAH1]</a></p>
<p><a href="http//www.XXXsoftware.com/blah2">[BLAH2]</a></p>
<p><a href="http//www.XXXsoftware.com/blah3">[BLAH3]</a></p>
<p><a href="http//www.XXXsoftware.com/blah4">[BLAH4]</a></p>

<p>Direct Inquiries to:  </p>
<p>xxxxxx@bellsouth.net</p>
<p>XXX CCC DDD EEEE</p>
</body>
</html>

shankle · October 23, 2005, 02:47:06 PM

Hello DrHowarddrfine,
Thanks for the help. It's going to take awhile to absorb all that.
JPS

shankle · October 24, 2005, 01:19:54 AM

I've run the programs thru the html validator and it comes out clean.
I then ran it thru the css validator and the following message is generated:
your css style sheet needs a correct document parse tree
Also it says thay line 9 is invalid.
Here is the latest code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>XXXSOFTWARE</title>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="test/html;charset=utf-8">
<meta http-equiv="content-style-type" content="test/css">
<style type="text/css">
body{background-color:cyan;color:black}
h2{text-align:center;font-weight:bold}
h6{text-align:center;font-weight:normal}
p{text-align:center;color:#ff0000;background-color:#ffffff}
p.fontblack{color:black;background-color:#ffffff}
p.fontblue{color:#0000ff;background-color:#ffffff}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h2>XXXSOFTWARE</h2>
Please Read The "README" Files
BLAH1
BLAH2
BLAH3
BLAH4 
<a class="fontblack">Name1, Name2, Name3, Name4</a>
<a href="http//www.xxxsoftware.com/home">[HOME]</a> <a href="http//www.xxxsoftware.com/blah1">[BLAH1]</a>
<a href="http//www.xxxsoftware.com/blah2">[BLAH2]</a>
<a href="http//www.xxxsoftware.com/blah3">[BLAH3]</a>
<a href="http//www.xxxsoftware.com/blah4">[BLAH4]</a>
Direct Inquiries to: 
<a class="fontblue">xxxxxx@bellsouth.net</a>
<h6>XXX CCC DDD EEEE</h6>
</body>
</html>

Thanks for any help,
JPS

drhowarddrfine · October 24, 2005, 01:27:26 AM

cyan is not a valid background color. Change it to something else or a hex color.

btw, black is the default font color so you don't need 'color:black'.

hutch-- · October 24, 2005, 01:36:26 AM

:bg

Now you know why I scrawl win95 style web sites in the ancient Netscape composer. It ain't beautiful but its reliable.

Bieb · October 24, 2005, 01:55:40 AM

lol. Come on, Hutch, cave in. Embrace CSS, it's the future!

drhowarddrfine · October 24, 2005, 01:55:54 AM

Been meanin' to talk to you about that, hutch. :P
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

hutch-- · October 24, 2005, 02:47:33 AM

Thanks for the link Doc but its the same response, my ancient web composer can be read by something as old as Netscape 3.0 and all of my current browsers (I don't own Opera) read the pages perfectly. Modernise it and I start playing musical chairs to suite one browser over another. Even Internet Exploder reads these pages properly.

shankle · October 25, 2005, 07:58:53 PM

Pretty much got it working. There still is an error in line 9 found in the CSS validator- code follows:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>XXXSOFTWARE</title>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="test/html;charset=utf-8">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="test/css">
<style type="text/css">
body {background-color:aqua;}

Thanks for any help...
JPS

drhowarddrfine · October 25, 2005, 10:21:57 PM

That's not enough code to tell anything. You need to post the whole thing. Better yet:

http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/
http://www.csscreator.com/css-forum/index.php
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/index.php?
http://www.codingforums.com/

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