My Boot Sector Problem

[dedndave]

i think Michael simply misunderstood the direction you were headed
i wouldn't worry about it

continue on with the productive stuff   :P

here is some code i wrote a while back...
http://www.masm32.com/board/index.php?topic=12028.msg91657#msg91657
it demonstrates the segment translation as i mentioned above and is well commented
i will leave incorporation into your code up to you   :P

[akulamartin]

@Micheal this is the  boot sector(MASM) that gives me 32kb,i intent to have a skeleton for future projects:

Please give specific "projects" that required a boot loaded.

I can tell you exactly why I had written a bootloader for myself, that was way back in MASM 5.0 day, completely legal copy, with the documentation.

So please share with us, the original use/purpose of the NASM code for a boot loader ???

Another dodge by you, and I will assume the worst purpose here.  Therefore lock the thread.

3. Legality of content is not a negotiable matter in the forum. Assembler programming is mainstream programming and is primarily used by professional programmers who require the performance in specialised areas. Low level coding is both allowed and encouraged but there will be no viral or trojan technology allowed including technical data under the guise of AV technology, no cracking and similar activities in the guise of "Reverse Engineering", no hacking techniques or related technology and no support or help with or reference to pirated software. There will also be no links to pages that support or display any of these or any other illegal areas of coding.

We have a ZERO tolerance policy for virus writers.

Regards,  P1  :8)

what does a template(skeleton) do if i may ask???what if i want changes to my small operating system stage 1-2,new design,add features,port it to mobile,write it in C/C++,use visual studio 2010,2012,2030,20xx,use tasm etc

[akulamartin]

Is this a witch-hunt?  Why is it dubious to translate a boot loader from NASM to MASM?
Writing a simple boot loader, is a common beginners task.

i dont know i seem to draw a clash everywhere i go this is not something new anyway

[akulamartin]

i think Michael simply misunderstood the direction you were headed
i wouldn't worry about it

continue on with the productive stuff   :P

here is some code i wrote a while back...
http://www.masm32.com/board/index.php?topic=12028.msg91657#msg91657
it demonstrates the segment translation as i mentioned above and is well commented
i will leave incorporation into your code up to you   :P

aight lemme av a look at that n ama tap tha code fo show main rulez baybay!!!!

[P1]

::) its for my kernel and i dont why im being grilled i just want a masm bootsector bcoz the nasm version was easier to work with ive seen this question 1000+ times so why is mine all of a sudden "virus/hacker" like??? is it the words im using?!

After 9 posts and five days as a new member, you want us to believe you have seen this "1000+ times", you have questions still ???

How many aliases does it take to "view" this question "1000+ times", in how many other websites ???

So going from a more familiar assembler syntax(and more experience) to a less familiar assembler syntax makes sense to you ???

So why the dodge from the my original post ???

You want to to know how many times we stop hackers and virus writers ???

AGAIN, what is the purpose of the "my kernel" code, that needs a boot loader ???  PLEASE NOTE:  Your statement implies that "my kernel" exists.

The video code was an example of kernel code programming ???

It seems that this hole is only being dug deeper here, with each round of questions.

Regards,  P1   :8)

[P1]

Is this a witch-hunt? 

No, It is a "which" hunt.  "Which" is the true purpose here.

Why is it dubious to translate a boot loader from NASM to MASM?

Mismatch of skill, purpose and direction.

Writing a simple boot loader, is a common beginners task.

He claims to have written kernel code for this boot loader.

The posted code is missing common elements of "translated" boot loader.  Do you not find this strange for a translation project, where the code syntax is mostly the same, it is the structure code surround that code is what he is asking about.

So he throws out a group of "A"s, for a video test, instead of a real message, like "Kernel loading ..." ???

But then again, I already know how tight a 512 byte boot loader is to code in is.

Regards,  P1  :8)

[P1]

it is very easy.
task1 - create the tool which offload dos or other os  and transfer execution to boot other system
task2 - create program with native data exchange with some device
task3 - create program that uses particular modes of cpu

i think that creation of something is more intresting that virus writing

I can think of more than that too.

It is not our place to put words into his mouth, let him speak for his self.

Truth is easy and quick to share.

Regards,  P1  :8) 

[P1]

i dont know i seem to draw a clash everywhere i go this is not something new anyway

Good point !!! 

So how many times has this happened before ???

There is lots of quality code already out there and you decide to start fresh here from "where" ???

These are some of the mismatches, that just does not make sense to chase after for reason and purpose.

I am letting this play out for others to watch the process, of digging his own hole.

Regards,  P1  :8)

[akulamartin]

Persistent.....so anyway dedndave im working on memory bit right now i'll post the code soon

[hutch--]

akulamartin,

Tread with caution here, you have been given enough room to explain what you are doing and why but we have not yet heard an answer that makes sense. If you keep trying to feed us bullsh*t the topic will disappear and you will no longer be able to post here.

Just remember that the people you are dealing with have been around for many years writing complex code and they will not be fed bullsh*t. We have dealt with guys trying to write viruses and trojans for years and they only go one way, out the door.

[akulamartin]

i read the rules and wot i uploaded was free to modify and its another bootsector,does the code i wrote look like a virus...i  dont think so it looks like a bootsector that doesnt work so i dont know wot the problem is when i ask for a solution, plus your estimation is way off...with your years of experience you can clearly see wot im asking for so i dont know where the virus bit is coming from it seems to me that theres some ego thing going on u  cant really tell im writing virus u just assumed did i hint in anyway im writing a virus no...p1 needs to do his job i dont know wot issue he has wit me i dont know him u didnt find anything so u went all lawyer trapping you cant jus judge on words that a virus is being written or bcoz my  ip changes i use my pc and i  phone

[anunitu]

I think something should be understood here,this is a programming site for learning assembler,and in its way a place for us older guys to hang out and talk to others in this line of programming. Something this site isn't is a democracy,this is Hutchs home that he has ALLOWED us to share. To allow ANY negative aspect with assembler,considering this is the WEB,could in fact cause this site to be tagged as something it is not. Heed Hutches words,he can and will do what he said,if even a hint of negative action is spotted. 

[akulamartin]

It seems ive not been wanted here for sometime so anything i do is closely monitored even to an extent of "setup like questioning"  i just came around to look fo an answer of how to write a bootsector in masm thats it,plain and simple if u feel  im writing a virus,fine i know im not you can now remove me please.... :snooty:

[hutch--]

Here is where I see the problem, one of our moderators asks a question about the intent of the code and the answer we got back was a pile of crap. If in fact what the question was about was writing a boot sector, we have a number of members who are very experienced at writing this type of code and as well, shifting to protected mode and other OS related tasks.

We are stuck with having had to deal with virus writers, hackers and trojan writers for years on end and as again, with a massive range of members experience we easily pick when someone is trying to feed us bullsh*t. If you are serious about writing a boot sector for a valid legal purpose then contact P1 and explain to him what you are doing and why you are doing it.

The problem for the forum admin and me in particular is any illegal posts eventually come back to me as the owner of the domain name that this forum runs under and i simply refuse to cover the arse of anyone who dumps any crap in here. While the forum protects the identity data of its members, if anyone dumps illegal content in here I will happily give them up to the Mossad, FBI, CIA, MI5, KGB, ASIO and even the penguins in Antarctica and actively assist them to find whoever has tried to dump illegal crap in here.