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Forming phrone beetween Element?

Started by Farabi, December 03, 2011, 12:40:41 AM

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Farabi

Anyone know the phrone beetween 2 atoms on a vacuum space? Im trying to simulating an atoms.
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Farabi

Ah just as I though, were so close to this

The speed of an electron can approach, but never reach, the speed of light in a vacuum, c. However, when relativistic electrons—that is, electrons moving at a speed close to c—are injected into a dielectric medium such as water, where the local speed of light is significantly less than c, the electrons temporarily travel faster than light in the medium. As they interact with the medium, they generate a faint light called Cherenkov radiation
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clive

It could be a random act of randomness. Those happen a lot as well.

Farabi

I mean, what is the preference of an atom to another atoms to form.
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qWord

There are several binding mechanisms, which can be stimulated, but this requires to know the physical theory and the corresponding math. Even simulation of two atoms can be extrem complicated!
However, you may be able to calculate the force between two ions in a crystal (e.g. for NaCL), when knowing the ion radius (Na+ ~ 102E-12m and Cl- ~ 181E-12m).
In this case you can use Coulomb's law to get the force between two ions (approximately)
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Farabi

Quote from: qWord on December 04, 2011, 04:31:58 PM
There are several binding mechanisms, which can be stimulated, but this requires to know the physical theory and the corresponding math. Even simulation of two atoms can be extrem complicated!
However, you may be able to calculate the force between two ions in a crystal (e.g. for NaCL), when knowing the ion radius (Na+ ~ 102E-12m and Cl- ~ 181E-12m).
In this case you can use Coulomb's law to get the force between two ions (approximately)

Thanks, super complicated but I'll try it out.
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Anyway, how did etyline could be formed like this? Did not the carbon still have 1 slot more to bond 1 more atoms? Did this etil was stable?


[edited]
O Sorry multiple bond.
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Farabi

Im speculating that chem bond is because the electron are spining but I think I was wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_bond

There is something more fundamental than this law. Something we dont know yet. But based from that interaction, this universe created.
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dedndave

of course, the answer is 42

i think the spin is what holds all the kinetic energy
each hydrogen atom may be converted to something like 5x10-19 joules
that may not sound like much, but that is just 1 atom

if the particles stop spinning, that energy must be released (it has to go somewhere, right ?)
so - the spin is the difference between matter and energy, in a manner of speaking
it probably has something to do with the fundemental nature of gravity as well
i may work it out in my head before i die   :P
....or not

PauloH

Farabi, the answers for you question is in atomic orbital theory and molecular orbital theory. These ones needs deep knowledge about quantum mechanics, math and chemistry. Even the most simple molecule (H2)  demands hard work.

Spin is not the causative of chemical bond.

You can read about them at:

http://media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/81/04716802/0471680281.pdf
http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/vchemlib/course/mo_theory/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_orbital_theory

Kind regards,

Paulo



Chemical bonding is possible because the stability of the new system formed between the atoms (could be molecules or ion lattices).

Farabi

Somebody already built it, http://mw.concord.org/modeler/download.html
Amazing, you should see his page about DNA replicating.
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Farabi

Quote from: dedndave on December 05, 2011, 11:59:12 AM
of course, the answer is 42

i think the spin is what holds all the kinetic energy
each hydrogen atom may be converted to something like 5x10-19 joules
that may not sound like much, but that is just 1 atom

if the particles stop spinning, that energy must be released (it has to go somewhere, right ?)
so - the spin is the difference between matter and energy, in a manner of speaking
it probably has something to do with the fundemental nature of gravity as well
i may work it out in my head before i die   :P
....or not

I think energy is somekind of vibration, not really a matter. So when an atom hitting each other, or when it reject each other, that movement is the energy. I think if my guess was right, between 2 magnet, there should be an energy on it. Because the electron is repell each other. But we only able to extract an electron from it. It should create a heat.
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Farabi

Sand arround my house is a perfect source for metal. But I had no idea to process it. I bet it had a good metal like silica and lots of carbons. Each time it is heated by the sun light, the waters molecule pavorized, and breakin apart from the mud. But each time the sand poured with waters, it forming again, and become a mud. When you look at the road, you though that aspalt is a solid material, but if the rain comes, it breaking aparts. That is the sand bonds preference. But it will be different if the silica or carbon on it formed from a high energy, it will be very solid, sturdy materials, it could be shiny too, and depend on the bond structure, sometime it could be transparent too. If we can process it somehow.
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Silicon metal is made from the reaction of silica (silicon dioxide, SiO2) and carbon materials like coke, coal and wood chips. Silica is typically received in the form of metallurgical grade gravel. This gravel is 99.5% silica, and is 3 x 1 or 6 x 1 in (8 x 3 cm or 15 x 3 cm) in size. The coal is usually of low ash content (1-3% to minimize calcium, aluminum, and iron impurities), contains around 60% carbon, and is sized to match that of the gravel. Wood chips are usually hardwood of 1/2 x 1/8 inch size (1 x. 3 cm size). All materials are received as specified by the manufacturer.

Read more: How silicon is made - material, making, history, used, processing, components, composition, structure, product, industry, History, Raw Materials, The Manufacturing Process of silicon, Quality Control http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Silicon.html#ixzz1fvjp8d00

Anyone can explain it to me the safest method for this electrolysis. Im going to build an iron. Just in case anyone suspecting Im going to used it against the good side, on literal meaning, I'll explain and documented everything to you. I got a camera on my glass, and Im connected to internet access. There is no way I'll going to use it on a bad way.
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qWord

Using Carbon for reduction is surly not a method, you can do at home: you need temperature above 2300°C, which is commonly done in a electric arc furnace! (this not a electrochemical reaction)
A very nice experiment is, to mix Quartz-powder (SiO2) with Magnesium powder and heat it with a bunsen burner (do not look in the flame!!!). The add-on cleaning with hydrochloric acid has also some nice effects ;-D
Before starting, please search for good instructions in your language!
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