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Title: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: anunitu on April 20, 2012, 11:11:56 PM
I am a bit surprised that this did not get a lot of news coverage.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_1...ernet-in-july/

Quote from this story.

"(AP) For computer users, a few mouse clicks could mean the difference between staying online and losing Internet connections this summer.

Unknown to most of them, their problem began when international hackers ran an online advertising scam to take control of infected computers around the world.

In a highly unusual response, the FBI set up a safety net months ago using government computers to prevent Internet disruptions for those infected users. But that system is to be shut down.

The FBI is encouraging users to visit a website run by its security partner, DCWG.org, that will inform them whether they're infected and explain how to fix the problem. After July 9, infected users won't be able to connect to the Internet."
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: MichaelW on April 20, 2012, 11:39:23 PM
I just tried the link and I get page not found. I find it hard to believe that the FBI would have a "security" partner named DCWG.org, and very suspicious that my quick search did not find anything on this from any security organization that I recognize.
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: dedndave on April 21, 2012, 12:50:19 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57418037-501465/hundreds-of-thousands-may-lose-internet-in-july/?tag=mncol;lst;1
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: shankle on April 23, 2012, 10:58:15 AM
This site will supposedly tell you if your computer is at risk.
If it turns Green you are ok:

     www.dns-ok.us/

Mine turned green. Have no way to check the validity of the test.
Would like to hear your opinions.
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: SteveAsm on April 23, 2012, 01:53:41 PM
I first heard the details of this issue, yesterday, while listening to Leo Leporte, on his radio show "The Tech Guy Labs".
Apparantly this is entirely true.
http://techguylabs.com/radio/ShowNotes/Show868

Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: vanjast on April 23, 2012, 07:28:26 PM
Quote from: anunitu on April 20, 2012, 11:11:56 PM
The FBI is encouraging users to visit a website run by its security partner, DCWG.org, that will inform them whether they're infected and explain how to fix the problem. After July 9, infected users won't be able to connect to the Internet."
I'd rather trust the hackers than the FBI at the moment  :bg
It's a choice of 'The lesser of the two evils'  :wink

Not all hackers are bad... and at the moment I have doubts about any 'safety' regarding the US.. just my concerns at the mo!
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: P1 on April 23, 2012, 11:31:41 PM
Quote from: anunitu on April 20, 2012, 11:11:56 PM
I am a bit surprised that this did not get a lot of news coverage.
It did get good coverage, to those that would care.   

What I find interesting is the FBI is "the man in the middle" replacement.   It was a easy money contract to provide pass-through DNS service server.

Most of these computers either, do not have virus protection or do not have updates turn on or not working.

Regards,  P1   :8)
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: MichaelW on April 24, 2012, 01:54:25 AM
Quote from: P1 on April 23, 2012, 11:31:41 PM
Most of these computers either, do not have virus protection or do not have updates turn on or not working.

Or just have a yoyo at the steering wheel :bg
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: dedndave on April 24, 2012, 02:01:19 AM
i think what bugs me here is, the government getting their hands in "who gets on and who doesn't"
i smell a slower internet coming, even if you can get on
come to think of it, i wasn't aware that they had such controls in place, to begin with
...and i know i didn't have a chance to vote against it
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: Farabi on April 24, 2012, 02:22:14 AM
FBI had a good reputation here. I bet lots of them are a good hackers too, except if they knew only scripting.
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: P1 on April 24, 2012, 03:05:03 AM
Quote from: dedndave on April 24, 2012, 02:01:19 AM
i think what bugs me here is, the government getting their hands in "who gets on and who doesn't"
i smell a slower internet coming, even if you can get on
come to think of it, i wasn't aware that they had such controls in place, to begin with
...and i know i didn't have a chance to vote against it
Too late, there is reason why the government owns a lot of Internet infrastructure is to scan it.  It is a carry over from the phone days(original Internet).  The filter traffic on key search words.

Regards,  Michael
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: Bill Cravener on April 24, 2012, 10:17:46 AM
(http://www.quickersoft.com/pictures/gigglesmile.gif)

(http://www.quickersoft.com/pictures/dns-changer.jpg) (http://www.quickersoft.com/pictures/security8.gif)
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: sinsi on April 24, 2012, 10:31:48 AM
Well, I guess there will still be a few over here
QuoteTDSS, Alureon, TidServ and TDL4 viruses
I still kill the first two at least twice a week.
Kaspersky still update tdsskiller (seems to me every day).
Malwarebytes at $25 is looking good.
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: SteveAsm on April 24, 2012, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: P1 on April 23, 2012, 11:31:41 PM
It did get good coverage, to those that would care.   

Where ?
I only recall hearing a rumor of this sort, maybe 6 months back or so.
No major media coverage.

Quote
Most of these computers either, do not have virus protection or do not have updates turn on or not working.

Now, when I explained to my wife, (who simply couldn't understand why the FBI was involved in shutting down a segment of the internet and cutting off users), she felt that it was the fault of the users for not updating their computers or having anti-virus.

That is, until I explained that it is people like my mother-inlaw (her mother) who are the most likely to be affected.
People who (have and use a computer, but,) are "computer ill-literate" and don't want to be bothered by having to mess with updating or paying for something they don't think they need.
After all, she doesn't "visit porn or other questionable websites" and doesn't think she is at risk.

It is unlikely that the tech savy will be victims of this, but rather, the naive.
As Leo Laporte stated in his radio show, "if you lose internet connection in July, that is the least of your problems".
Title: Re: Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Post by: vanjast on April 25, 2012, 01:33:17 PM
If you think of it, it's probably just a hoax to get people to unwittingly 'register' on the FBI database.

If they proceed to shut down the net, think of the effect it would have on world businesses.
It's a stupid idea and doomed to failure at it's conception...

Come to think of it the US has been good at such things.. Vietnam. Iraq(version 2).. Afghanistan, where mostly Oil barons and Weapons dealers have profited.
I wonder who's profiting from this idea  :naughty:

Bet's on that the cut-off date is.....  4th July  :green2