I do not know what I'm doing wrong, or if I'm doing wrong, but i cannot get howl programs to work properly with hla 2.16 version. I've tried many different ways to get radASM to work, but I always get the same errors. Either radASM does not work--that might explain the need for 3.x version of radASM which does not yet work with hla--or I've forgotten all I know about assembly language. Does Randall Hyde already know about this problem, or am I just a special case? Any info would be appreciated. By the way, HIDE is not an acceptable replacement for radASM, which seems to work OK for console versions of radASM. THANK YOU!