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Title: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: Astro on October 07, 2011, 06:04:15 PM
Hi,

What is the difference between these two, and is there any reason to not use the later version? I seem to recall a while ago people were sticking with V9 but I'm not sure why and didn't ask.

I'm busy sorting out my dev tools and want to know what I can keep and what I can get rid of as I have copies all over the place.
Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: hfheatherfox07 on October 07, 2011, 11:44:42 PM
As far as I know there are a few things missing from MASM V10 like imagehlp.lib + imagehlp.inc that are used in some sources for checksum...

See here.... http://www.masm32.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=1c17ec27020f8208739217a65899439a&topic=16957;prev_next=next

Keep both :)
Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: MichaelW on October 08, 2011, 04:56:50 AM
The imagehlp include file is present, but the import library was left out by mistake, a mistake that has been corrected for the next release.
Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: dedndave on October 08, 2011, 04:57:25 AM
i see that version 9 has a small bug
it sounds like something that can be easily overcome
https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/294468/masm-punpckldq-mmreg-qword-ptr-eax-now-gives-error
Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: hutch-- on October 08, 2011, 08:37:39 AM
If you need to imagehlp library, just use the INC2L.EXE tool.
Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: hfheatherfox07 on October 09, 2011, 03:35:30 PM
Hi hutch ....
since a thread about MASM version was started .... is the setup installer for the MASM a public source any were? ( not the MASM in it , just empty)
I noticed earlier versions used winrar SFX .... is it available?

Also I collected all the MASM's ...versions 1 through 10 ....but I am missing MASM32v2 ....is it available? (So I can complete my collection...nostalgic reasons only)

Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: hutch-- on October 10, 2011, 01:24:38 AM
I have always written the installer in MASM, I forget about the very early versions but I still have the complete builds for versions 9, 10 and very shortly 11. The 7zip SFX is still the best archiver I have found but there has been a problem with guys hacking it so the next version will be compressed to help avoid that. If anyone wants to hack that I will do some serious work to prevent it as I don't want hacked versions floating around that have trojans ands viruses in them.
Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: hfheatherfox07 on October 10, 2011, 01:27:41 AM
I was wondering if you had the source for the installer written in MASM....

A little concern about packing is that it triggers off the AV ( a false positive) but most people will avoid them !

Do you have version 2 some were?
Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: hfheatherfox07 on October 10, 2011, 01:35:17 AM
Here is a good example of that  .... PNGlib.exe SFX from  here http://www.madwizard.org/programming/projects/pnglib

http://www.madwizard.org/download/PNGlib.exe 

It is compressed ... but My AV light up like a Christmas tree....

the AV companies might not recognize a certain packers as a threat now , but later it will .... The new UPX is fine with the AV's for now.... Older upx compressed stuff ...not so much......


Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: Gunner on October 10, 2011, 01:41:39 AM
Quote from: hfheatherfox07 on October 10, 2011, 01:35:17 AM
Here is a good example of that  .... PNGlib.exe SFX from  here http://www.madwizard.org/programming/projects/pnglib

http://www.madwizard.org/download/PNGlib.exe 

It is compressed ... but My AV light up like a Christmas tree....

the AV companies might not recognize a certain packers as a threat now , but later it will .... The new UPX is fine with the AV's for now.... Older upx compressed stuff ...not so much......




Ya gotta get rid of the crappy AV software.  I used to use Avira, that used to flag almost everything here.  ESET runs better, and haven't gotten a false positive yet
Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: hfheatherfox07 on October 10, 2011, 01:54:08 AM
What I am looking for is a sfx asm similar to the masm one I like the look .....

I found this : http://www.masm32.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=9b63aa940a24a9baaff48821daa7bb23&topic=9485.0

This is  a nice one: http://www.masm32.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=bd30ce9627d6cc9f68abe106df7c9fe3&topic=14783.0

but It won't uninstall or create an uninstall link in the \Start Menu\Programs....

just something I was messing with a while back and put in the To Do bin .....
Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: hfheatherfox07 on October 10, 2011, 01:55:24 AM
Quote from: Gunner on October 10, 2011, 01:41:39 AM
Quote from: hfheatherfox07 on October 10, 2011, 01:35:17 AM
Here is a good example of that  .... PNGlib.exe SFX from  here http://www.madwizard.org/programming/projects/pnglib



It is compressed ... but My AV light up like a Christmas tree....

the AV companies might not recognize a certain packers as a threat now , but later it will .... The new UPX is fine with the AV's for now.... Older upx compressed stuff ...not so much......




Ya gotta get rid of the crappy AV software.  I used to use Avira, that used to flag almost everything here.  ESET runs better, and haven't gotten a false positive yet

Did Avira recognize http://www.madwizard.org/download/PNGlib.exe  as a virus or nothing?
Title: Re: MASM V9 vs. MASM V10
Post by: Gunner on October 10, 2011, 02:06:06 AM
Don't remember