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Title: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Farabi on July 26, 2011, 10:27:08 PM
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110419205538.htm

The resource of course.  :green
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Gunner on July 26, 2011, 11:12:54 PM
I read in the paper a few days ago that scientist (I think it was in Britian) combined human dna with animal dna quite a few ways...  That is totally wrong!!!  Moding dna to get rid of birth defects is one thing, but trying to create a chimera is just not right...
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: anunitu on July 27, 2011, 12:07:07 AM
I caught that story also Gunner,and I just watched a movie named "Spliced", and trust me it diden't have a happy ending.
The movie was exactly what the story was about,combining Human DNA with animal DNA.

Good movie,catch it if you get a chance. It was on HBO.
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Twister on July 27, 2011, 07:45:39 AM
QuoteCombining Human DNA with animal DNA

Seems like a form of Human experimentation. As far as I have checked, that is internationally outlawed. :wink
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: hutch-- on July 27, 2011, 07:52:25 AM
Dunno about you guys but mine are closed source.  :bg
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: baltoro on July 27, 2011, 06:05:36 PM
...If you are an orangutan, you might find this article interesting: Comparative and Demographic Analysis of Orang-utan Genomes, Nature, Jan 2011 (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v469/n7331/pdf/nature09687.pdf)
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Farabi on July 28, 2011, 05:38:23 AM
I was wondering that if our cell molucule was just like a puzzle, and it only fit where it should placed, and when the code was wrong, it trashed and become a cancer. I hope that our genes was coded our form frame by frame and on each frame it contain an information "pixel by pixel" so it only fits if it was right. If it so, it will be easier to understand. I was imagining that helicase was like a harddisk reader, where if we replaced it on the first frame, our regeneration goin back to when we are young. Helicase is the interpreter of the DNA code, that creature that produce the molecule to shape our form. This subject is really interesting.

I think our body was just a machine, like a robot was, just more advanced and more complex, but it is very easy to use doesnot it. It accept command from thought.
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Farabi on July 28, 2011, 05:42:20 AM
Quote from: Gunner on July 26, 2011, 11:12:54 PM
I read in the paper a few days ago that scientist (I think it was in Britian) combined human dna with animal dna quite a few ways...  That is totally wrong!!!  Moding dna to get rid of birth defects is one thing, but trying to create a chimera is just not right...

Well, The researchers need to stay out from using human genes, I dont want us to have a predator. Imagine, as wild as a lion, but as smart as humans. This is going to be a teror for human kind.
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: FORTRANS on July 28, 2011, 12:28:09 PM
Hi,

   For your enjoyment (presumably):

http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=35&prgDate=7-23-2011

Play the "Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me!" 'Opening Panel Round'.

Cheers,

Steve N.
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Farabi on July 28, 2011, 12:43:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKvez9duEHQ

Have a look at it. There only 64 type of molecul on our body, and womb has nothing to do with human development, it build it self. Mothers only provide food suply, blood and oxygen, and antibody given from breastfeed. The researcer already found a way to regerate dismantle limbs, and someday, our body will regenerate it self just like an embryo. It just something we did not know that forced us to not live as long as we wish.
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: daydreamer on August 01, 2011, 01:05:58 PM
reminds me of the Gattaca movie
do we really want it like that when Uma Thurman turns in a hair and gets a question "do you want the full sequence" and answer that "he is a 9.3, quit a catch"?
will the future be like that movie or parts of it at least?
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Farabi on August 03, 2011, 05:13:04 AM
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110728123107.htm

Wow, we did not need to modify our genetics, we just need to use the mRNA to reprogram the cell. It is safer than we thought. Skin cell can be reprogrammed as a brain cell, I guess our cells could be anything depend on the mRNA.
Whohoooow yeah. Lab on chip is 100 USD, A microscope is 80 USD. The future is going to be interesting, with the help of robot, maybe we can create food on a tank.
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Farabi on August 03, 2011, 05:48:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIIbDunFNs

"Brain cell are inteligent, just mix the chip with cell, and sit back and relax, it will connect to the chip, without we teach it". Whoooa.  :dazzled:
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Farabi on August 05, 2011, 01:14:58 PM
This game is the worst case scenario http://www.prototypegame.com/ the blacklight virus. As smart as a genius human, and as wild and hunger as an animal. It had an robust healing system, and absolutly out of control.
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Farabi on August 10, 2011, 09:30:43 AM
Researchers successfully sent image data to human brain from tongue. So basically our body had a data channel where each data is had a special encoded system. But brain can intrepret it through any data channel. The future is going to be unimagineable, it would be different than anyone can imagine,

We stuck on physical appearance. But if someday we found a new thing, we dont need a physical body anymore. Lets define our body as a force. We can take any form we want, or even formless. We will redefine our sensory input like, color, pain, joy, voice and everything, or maybe define on a new one. Still long road ahead, but it is reachable if we work together. Everyone had it own unique ability, some part you can handle, sometimes cannot be handled by anyone else, and vice versa, researching is need a lot of cost, but if I can give some advice, lets just forget about copyright, we need a lot of information, or we will stuck on this life forever.
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: oex on August 11, 2011, 04:27:09 PM
Quote from: Farabi on August 10, 2011, 09:30:43 AM
Researchers successfully sent image data to human brain from tongue. So basically our body had a data channel where each data is had a special encoded system. But brain can intrepret it through any data channel. The future is going to be unimagineable, it would be different than anyone can imagine,

We stuck on physical appearance. But if someday we found a new thing, we dont need a physical body anymore. Lets define our body as a force. We can take any form we want, or even formless. We will redefine our sensory input like, color, pain, joy, voice and everything, or maybe define on a new one. Still long road ahead, but it is reachable if we work together. Everyone had it own unique ability, some part you can handle, sometimes cannot be handled by anyone else, and vice versa, researching is need a lot of cost, but if I can give some advice, lets just forget about copyright, we need a lot of information, or we will stuck on this life forever.

Onan,

To desire not to be 'stuck in this life' would doubtless exist whatever form we took.... Even if we could exist at the height of pleasure our entire existances can you imagine all the middle ground that would be lost? What reason would our existance hold?

The value in our lives is our perspective, enabling people to improve their own perspectives around the confines of nature....

What would existance be without a butterfly that dies after 3 days? what would existance be without birds chirping in the trees? These things have no tech, they have no extreme pleasure however without such real life perspective nothing is learned and nothing is truely understood....

There is no better perspective than to find and cherish a special moment in life but also to understand what and why you search and what and why you cherish....
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Farabi on August 16, 2011, 01:17:53 PM
Hi oex, I dont get what you re saying, can you say it again on a simple words. Sorry, I guess It is too complicated for me :green
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: oex on August 16, 2011, 11:26:41 PM
:lol

Dont wish away the reality that exists

"We stuck on physical appearance. But if someday we found a new thing, we dont need a physical body anymore."

This will not and should not happen in our lifetimes.... Ask yourself.... What individuals should not have to have a physical body? People that want to take another form? Parents can decide for children? Everyone? Animals? Where is the line drawn?

This is frankenstein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein) science
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: dedndave on August 17, 2011, 12:03:10 AM
you could be a whale...
...or one of those turtles that lives really long   :P

(http://rlv.zcache.com/sea_turtle_geek_sticker-p217502659609272160qjcl_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: Farabi on August 22, 2011, 08:08:33 PM
Okay I confess, Im just playing God. Im not really interested to be a God. It is out of my capability. Lets assume there are 1.8*10^18 atoms on a 1x1 cm. For only that room I need at least up to 1000 TB of storage. I could use all of my brain channell, but I think it only a few hundreds billion. Hell. I runout of bandwith to check all of the movement. Even to move and manage this all 100 trilion cell I handled it to the AI system on my body, like reflex and all of the subconious system, Can you imagine it if it was not automaticaly? I can stop breathing when reading daves code  :lol
Title: Re: Human Genes going to be Open Source
Post by: dedndave on August 22, 2011, 11:51:06 PM
 :lol

i seem to be the only guy in here that likes my code   :bg
that's ok - i guess i don't have to worry about it getting ripped off