The MASM Forum Archive 2004 to 2012

General Forums => The Soap Box => Topic started by: anunitu on July 15, 2011, 02:49:15 PM

Title: This is a scary thought
Post by: anunitu on July 15, 2011, 02:49:15 PM
Just caught this online. Seems the U.S. Government "Might" do a bit more than tighten up security on its computer systems.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304521304576446191468181966.html


Quote:

"Deputy Secretary of Defense William Lynn said the laws of armed conflict apply in cyberspace, implying that the U.S., in some cases, reserves the right to use real bullets and real bombs to retaliate for virtual attacks. The Wall Street Journal reported the military's conclusion in May."
Title: Re: This is a scary thought
Post by: hutch-- on July 16, 2011, 02:42:12 AM
 :bg

The reciprocal is also interesting, now every loonie on the planet can cyber attack the US if they don't like what its foreign policy is.

The rule of unintended consequences strikes again.  :P
Title: Re: This is a scary thought
Post by: zemtex on July 16, 2011, 04:06:06 PM
traceroute -> "AH, there you are" -> from IP traffic to Stealth Bombing

   "Damnit, it was a proxy server we bombed"

"On to the next target"

Hyperexplosive ip-tracing  :bdg (How effective will firewalls be)
Title: Re: This is a scary thought
Post by: xanatose on July 21, 2011, 09:44:13 AM
And how exactly is this a change in policy?

Military attacks always illegal as one is attacking another country (as the country has its own laws).  Thus launching a missile to a server farm is just as illegal as launching a missile to a fortified bunker.  If you are a hacker in China (where most of the cyber attacks come from), that is not going to happen.

As of in the USA cyber attackers, the FBI has jursidiction, and they do have a long history of executions (of course they do not call it that).
Title: Re: This is a scary thought
Post by: dedndave on July 21, 2011, 02:39:39 PM
sounds like an excuse for govt employess to waste taxpayer dollars playing "Call of Duty"

(http://lirent.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/call-of-duty-4-2.jpg.pagespeed.ce.gP_hHiBUSL.jpg)
Title: Re: This is a scary thought
Post by: hutch-- on July 21, 2011, 04:11:58 PM
 :bg

Is there a Reggae version ?
Title: Re: This is a scary thought
Post by: anunitu on July 21, 2011, 04:40:28 PM
Will this end up being like that episode of star trek,where they randomly choose people to be casualties from a computer virtual war??
Title: Re: This is a scary thought
Post by: hutch-- on July 22, 2011, 01:04:02 AM
I liked the solution to that episode, break the system so they have to go out and do the nasty dirty stuff like killing people. I have no doubt it would work well today if governments were prevented from hiding the ugly stuff.