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Title: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: baltoro on June 25, 2011, 08:30:57 PM
This article in the Los Angeles Times: Venezuelans Speculate on Chavez's Absence (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-chavez-absence-20110625,0,903813.story), got me to thinking,...what is REALLY going on here ???


Nothing makes sense, here,...
Unless, you look at the situation in a different light.
He's almost certainly getting Sex Change Surgery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassignment_surgery). :eek
It's a well-know fact that Thailand performs the most sex reassignment surgeries in the world, followed by Iran. So, after, preliminary cosmetic surgery in Cuba,...it's off to Thailand, for some real excitement,...
The legal implications of this scenario are mind-boggling. Can Chavez, as a trans-sexual, run for President of Venezuela, endlessly ???
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: dedndave on June 25, 2011, 09:27:41 PM
i seem to recall a 007 movie where a guy went to Cuba to have surgery to change his DNA and appearance  :P
on a more positive note, Pearce Brosnen ran into Haley Berry down there and had a heck of a good time   :U
vacationing in Cuba may not be as bad as it sounds   :bg
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: hutch-- on June 26, 2011, 03:49:27 AM
No reason not to be creative, when poor old Gaddafi goes to his desert island with a harem of good looking camels, you could send Hugo there as well once he retires from being El Presidente of Venezueala and could provide the alternative to good looking camels for Gaddafi. (As long as the operation was successful).  :P
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: dedndave on June 26, 2011, 03:54:51 AM
....or, Hugo can just be one of the camels   :lol

like all good swimmers - they can use the "buddy system"
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: baltoro on June 27, 2011, 08:29:36 PM
Here's an update on this mystifying situation from today's Wall Street Journal: A Get-Well Card for Hugo Chávez, June 27 (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304569504576405674175813008.html).
...And, naturally, I've updated my wildly improbable conspiracy theory,...
What if those despicable Cuban fascists fake Chavez's death,...and, 'dump his corpse' in the North Arabian Sea,...just like the US special operations team did with Osama bin Laden ???
Venezuela would explode into chaos, street riots, senseless violence, economic paralysis, and eventual collapse. Petróleos de Venezuela  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petr%C3%B3leos_de_Venezuela_S.A.) would be attacked by armed revolutionaries,...and, cease all production activity. OPEC would attempt to stabilize the world petroleum market, which would probably backfire spectacularly, causing wild fluctuations in the price and availability of oil. Military intervention would be massive and ugly, and make matters much worse, eventually, plunging the fragile world financial system into the abyss,...
...Hey, I'm already working on a blockbuster screenplay,... :eek
Meanwhile, Hugo Chavez lives out his remaining days on a specially designed ghost cruise ship, somwhere out near Fiji...

History of the Venezuelan Oil Industry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Venezuelan_oil_industry)

P.S. By the way,...what is it with Hutch and camels ???
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: carlos on June 27, 2011, 08:54:07 PM

First Obama, and now possibly, Chaves , no wonder Greenpeace is in uproar

maybe this shark found one of them, and wanted to flee  :toothy  :toothy  :toothy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCWT-tBLnD8

Just let's hope USA or Britain don't throw George or Tony (or god forbids, both) to the sea or we'll face an ELE

Carlos
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: dedndave on June 27, 2011, 09:18:36 PM
probably the wrong thread, but....

i read in the news that the ICC issued a warrant for the arrest of moammar godawful   :U
the warrant charges him, his son, and a top aide of crimes against humanity

they'll try him in the Hague and hang him or shoot him or whatever they do with really bad guys   :P

i wonder if there's a bounty to fill the warrant   :bg
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: baltoro on June 27, 2011, 09:23:55 PM
DAVE !!!
...So, you think Libya and Venezuela are the next 'Axis of Evil' ???
I love it.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: dedndave on June 27, 2011, 09:26:58 PM
lol
i dunno - the muslims are in a number of countries
they are probably heavily based in Europe
so, i think we should shell Italy, France, Spain, Germany, etc
and clean house before the shit starts   :lol

i guess that would make ME the next axis of evil   :bdg
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: baltoro on June 27, 2011, 09:29:38 PM
 :bg
Well, Dave, I think you're evil,...but, you're not a major oil exporter,...so, the geopolitical implications aren't nerarly as devastating,...
...And, yeah,...I agree with you,...we need to get some invasions going,...just to show the world that we've got control of the situation,...
I suppose the CIA is gaming this sort of thing in their spare time,...
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: hutch-- on June 29, 2011, 12:24:14 AM
Dave,

You are targeting the wrong countries in Europe, a full scale air invasion of Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain (PIGS) would solve most of the problems that the Euro is having, after the air attack there would be nothing to have to bail out and the rest of Europe could live long and prosper.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: dedndave on June 29, 2011, 11:18:25 AM
i was thinking more of a "blanket" operation, Hutch
we could cover the entire western european block   :P

a lot of those buildings are really really old and need to come down, anyways - lol
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: José Roca on June 30, 2011, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: hutch-- on June 29, 2011, 12:24:14 AM
Dave,

You are targeting the wrong countries in Europe, a full scale air invasion of Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain (PIGS) would solve most of the problems that the Euro is having, after the air attack there would be nothing to have to bail out and the rest of Europe could live long and prosper.

Where are going to spend his summer vacation then? Australia is in the ass of the world, and with so many camel farts, it must smell accordingly.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: jj2007 on June 30, 2011, 08:56:19 PM
Quote from: dedndave on June 27, 2011, 09:26:58 PM
we should shell Italy, ...
i guess that would make ME the next axis of evil   :bdg

You and Hutch, actually. Check the new version of the Credits macro in MasmBasic :toothy
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: hutch-- on June 30, 2011, 09:50:27 PM
José,

You are right, we have more camels than the Saudis and they are better looking as well (than either the Saudis or their camels). Seriously, Spain in the EU with a currency common to other economies like France, the UK and Germany is responsible for the debt problem as they all have different industrial capacities. If Spain reverted to its own currency and abandoned the Euro, it would solve the debt problem and probably improve competitiveness against other countries that it trades with. Greece has similar problems and is being knackered by the over valued Euro.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: hutch-- on June 30, 2011, 11:09:01 PM
On the bright side Chavez can't be as dumb as he may look, he bought the best jet fighter in the world.

(http://minci.gob.ve/img/avionvzlano2006.jpg)

(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/112/b/7/Sukhoi_30_MK_II_Venezuela_3_by_pedrorondon.jpg)
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: José Roca on July 01, 2011, 12:12:43 AM
We have one of the lowest public debts of Europe and we are resposible of the whole debt problem? Please, get your facts right before bombing us.

List of sovereign states by public debt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt

If they don't manage to form a government soon, the next one won't be Spain, but Belgium.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: baltoro on July 01, 2011, 12:37:01 AM
Total Dispair !!!
Another of my profoundly enlightening threads degenerates into MADNESS !!!

...But,...wait,...there is an exciting new development: Venezuela's Chavez to Address the Nation, Thursday 9 PM (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/01/us-venezuela-chavez-idUSTRE75T5YI20110701)
We all know how good special effects are these days,...it's probably just a CG stunt double,... :eek
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: hutch-- on July 01, 2011, 02:07:55 AM
José,

Apart from pointing some humour at Dave, this is what we keep hearing in the news over the European debt crisis.

Global stock markets fall as Spain default fears grow

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/gilts/8531830/Global-stock-markets-fall-as-Spain-default-fears-grow.html
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: José Roca on July 01, 2011, 06:53:45 AM
May 24? These are old news. Yesterday, the Spanish stock market jumped and the debt's premium risk lowered sharply.

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/deuda/espanola/registra/mejor/jornada/meses/elpepueco/20110630elpepueco_26/Tes

Now you can pay, now you don't.

Brussels should create an European rating agence and the Central European Bank should buy sovereign debt to stop these speculators. Unfortunately, Angela Merkel won't agree unless these US rating agences will lower the rating of Germany.

Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: hutch-- on July 01, 2011, 07:42:50 AM
I am pleased to hear that Spain is starting to get some results but for what its worth the IMF still see potential problems with the Spanish economy.

IMF Sees 'Considerable' Risks in Spain Amid Debt Crisis

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-06-22/imf-sees-considerable-risks-in-spain-amid-debt-crisis.html
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: José Roca on July 01, 2011, 03:42:48 PM
The IMF sees risk in everything...

IMF sees downside risks for Dutch economy
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/22/imf-netherlands-idUSN1E75L0IY20110622

IMF Sees Risks to Global Economy Mounting
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/06/17/imf-sees-risks-to-global-economy-mounting/

IMF sees risks in Canada
http://www.financialpost.com/warns+risks+Canada+growth/4013848/story.html

IMF sees risk in oil prices
http://www.thestar.com/business/markets/article/973011--imf-sees-risk-in-oil-prices

IMF Sees Risks Rising in Financial Sector
http://www.imf.org/external/mmedia/view.aspx?vid=993127532001

IMF sees world economic risks increasing
http://thebankwatch.com/2011/06/17/imf-sees-world-economic-risks-increasing-western-economies-and-banks-display-negative-trends/

IMF Sees Risk in `Mild Overvaluation' of Australian Housing Market Gains
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-06/imf-sees-risk-in-mild-overvaluation-of-australian-housing-market-gains.html

IMF sees risks to Hungary's fiscal plans, GDP growth
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-06-22/imf-sees-considerable-risks-in-spain-amid-debt-crisis.html

IMF sees inflation "significant risk" in Britain
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-06/06/c_13913797.htm

IMF warns on inflation in emerging markets
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/RPT-WRAPUP-4-IMF-countries-try-to-bridge-economic--FZ2F7?OpenDocument

IMF sees significant downside risks to global recovery
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/7082964.html

MF sees risks for Ireland in repaying EU
http://www.newsday.com/business/imf-sees-risks-for-ireland-in-repaying-eu-1.2556136

Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: dedndave on July 01, 2011, 04:20:58 PM
that may be a sign of how screwed up the world economy is rather than the IMF being over-critical   :P

it's like being a weather man in Phoenix
it doesn't take a meteorologist to predict......

"it's going to be hot and sunny"
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: José Roca on July 01, 2011, 04:36:17 PM
The IMF acts like a doctor that to cure an illness will prescribe a medicine that will kill the patient.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: dedndave on July 01, 2011, 05:10:00 PM
i think we have a case where there is no viable cure
the patient is going to die, no matter what we do

there are some possibilities, but the rich assholes in the world aren't going to give up their stash
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: anunitu on July 02, 2011, 12:32:38 AM
I think what is happening with Greece is what other countrys are falling into. from the news, it was said greece had a retirement age of 53(maybe I heard it wrong,and its 58,hard to believe 53) and 80% of your pay upon retirement. They played smoke and mirriors with their debt, and mainly hide the fact they were broke,and only solvent on paper. the banks were buying and selling DEBT,sounds a little like the housing bubble here in the states. Package the debts into a lump,and sell the packeged debt back and forth. as long as the debt is moving,it never comes to light.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Is Up To Something
Post by: José Roca on July 02, 2011, 01:14:31 AM
The normal retirement age in Greece was 65 years. You could retire at 58 only if you had completed 35 years of work.