Wordware Publishing offers James Leiterman's book 32/64-bit 80x86 Assembly Language Architecture for approximately 70 $. Does anyone know the title? Is it worth the money?
Gunther
Gunther,
I bought that book, it's not very good. It's mostly an instruction reference with some of the author's experiences in 32-bit thrown in. You would do better to download the Intel manuals.
Quote from: Gunther on November 28, 2010, 01:55:20 AM
Wordware Publishing offers James Leiterman's book 32/64-bit 80x86 Assembly Language Architecture for approximately 70 $. Does anyone know the title? Is it worth the money?
I'm suspicious of the title as
8086 and
32/64 bit are mutually exclusive :naughty:
Quote from: GregL, November 28, 2010, at 02:10:05 AMI bought that book, it's not very good. It's mostly an instruction reference with some of the author's experiences mixed in.
Thank you Greg, that saves me a lot of money.
Quote from: GregL, November 28, 2010, at 02:10:05 AMYou would do better to download the Intel manuals.
Yes, that's also true. But I have already those manuals and the appropriate AMD manuals and Agner Fog's manuals ... :bg
Gunther
Quote from: GuntherYes, that's also true. But I have already those manuals and the appropriate AMD manuals and Agner Fog's manuals ... :bg
I just meant that the Intel manuals have more information than this book.
Greg,
Quote from: GregL, November 28, 2010, at 02:23:43 AMI just meant that the Intel manuals have more information than this book.
Yes, I understand what you've written. It was a joke :wink. It's one of those books which lie in the book store shelf like lead.
Gunther
Gunther,
Unfortunately I bought it online, that was a mistake.
i am leary of a book that costs $70 - lol
perhaps i am old school, but when i was buying books left and right, they ran ~$20 :P
It's definitely not worth 70 bucks! I bought that book too, google'd some promo code :toothy, and it didn't cost more than ~25
Quote from: dedndave, November 28, 2010, at 06:43:32 AMperhaps i am old school, but when i was buying books left and right, they ran ~$20
Quote from: ramguru, November 28, 2010, at 11:43:51 AMIt's definitely not worth 70 bucks! I bought that book too, google'd some promo code, and it didn't cost more than ~25
Your arguments are okay, but don't forget: It's the final price including shipping and handling from US to Germany via England! That makes the book expensive, because the money transfer goes from Dollar via Pound to Euro. Furthermore, to speak about a free book market in Germany is ridiculous, because we've fixed book prices here.
Gunther
Quote from: Gunther on November 28, 2010, 06:11:52 PM
Quote from: dedndave, November 28, 2010, at 06:43:32 AMperhaps i am old school, but when i was buying books left and right, they ran ~$20
Quote from: ramguru, November 28, 2010, at 11:43:51 AMIt's definitely not worth 70 bucks! I bought that book too, google'd some promo code, and it didn't cost more than ~25
Your arguments are okay, but don't forget: It's the final price including shipping and handling from US to Germany via England! That makes the book expensive, because the money transfer goes from Dollar via Pound to Euro. Furthermore, to speak about a free book market in Germany is ridiculous, because we've fixed book prices here.
Gunther
If you want to have a look at it, without spending any currency bucks, go ahead and
find a pdf version "somewhere". After that you can decide what's worth and maybe buy it. :naughty:
Quote from: frktons, November 28, 2010, at 06:48:56 PMgo ahead and find a pdf version "somewhere".
Somewhere is good. There are many torrents across the InterWeb (rapidshare etc), but you have to register before download and I've strong doubts that this is legal. On the other hand, the echo inside this thread is negative, so I won't waste my time for searching Mr. Leiterman's book. But what about other assembly language titles? For example, Kip Irvine has written some books?
Gunther
Quote from: Gunther on November 28, 2010, 10:40:00 PM
Quote from: frktons, November 28, 2010, at 06:48:56 PMgo ahead and find a pdf version "somewhere".
Somewhere is good. There are many torrents across the InterWeb (rapidshare etc), but you have to register before download and I've strong doubts that this is legal. On the other hand, the echo inside this thread is negative, so I won't waste my time for searching Mr. Leiterman's book. But what about other assembly language titles? For example, Kip Irvine has written some books?
Gunther
For beginners K. Irvine's books are very good. Not sure for more advanced coders.
Quote from: Gunther on November 28, 2010, 10:40:00 PM
I've strong doubts that this is legal.
If download file have counter of downloads, you can make some decisions about goodness of book by the that counters, probably.
i remember, in the day (lol), that i used to try and buy books by authors that i knew of
Ray Duncan comes to mind - his books always had something to learn
Peter Nortons' books, on the other hand, were too basic for me - they seemed to cover things that i already knew
it seems that, whenever i bought one by an "unknown" author, i wound up being disappointed
some books had multiple author names, which made it easier to research
i.e. do a liitle research on the author
how many other books and papers have they published - and what was the subject
nowdays, you can usually find them on linkedin or some similar site - you may even find resumes
this particular book is a "general assembly for windows" type book
a myiriad of authors have written this type of book
there is a lot of ground to cover - lol
API - graphics - internet - system - etc
it may be more fruitful to look for a more specialized book that covers a certain field of interest
Quote from: dedndave, November 29, 2010, at 01:11:03 AMRay Duncan comes to mind - his books always had something to learn
Yes, an author from the good old days. His books are well written and problem oriented. Since a few weeks, he's a forum member, but not very active.
Gunther