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Title: Question!
Post by: blake7897 on October 31, 2009, 10:37:30 PM
HI

I wanna Know If can be posible find a guide tell HOW TO READ MEMORY(PRocess) I really wanna understand this process!!!
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: qWord on November 01, 2009, 02:17:22 AM
are you asking for MASM's syntax of memory operands? - give us some more informations.
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: blake7897 on November 01, 2009, 02:33:34 AM
mmm I am talking about General So i heart Its can be possible READ MEMORY of One process I.E like.exe i wanna read with what api are working that Process and  read your memory for modific With a DLL maked in MASM32 :D If i am SO WRONG Please My Apologize... :S!
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: rags on November 01, 2009, 02:56:47 AM
Can I ask why do you want to modify a running process with a dll that you have written? Did you write the Exe that you want to modify in memory?
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: blake7897 on November 01, 2009, 03:26:50 AM
No listen i dont started to read code and nothing i JUST WANT UNDERSTAND HOW WORK >.<! i wanna understand what is the behavior about a process in my case about a GAME what apis use how i can read his memory ONLY STEP or guide no need When i learn to how to read memory and identify what i want change i will START to programing Understand ? :D!
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: MichaelW on November 01, 2009, 04:33:14 AM
QuoteUnderstand?

If you are trying to learn how to modify an EXE other than you own, you should know that the forum rules do not allow this.

Title: Re: Question!
Post by: blake7897 on November 01, 2009, 05:16:33 AM
Was just a question No a petition :S! Sorry then!!! I will investigate by my self my apologize i Can Resquest Close this post :D! and sorry for lost your time i really wanna start in MASM32 but firts i wanna know the process what is my objetive to folow but actually i dont have!!!
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: BlackVortex on November 01, 2009, 10:04:43 AM
It seems you don't have the mental capacity for real programming. Go read some visual basic tutorials.
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: MichaelW on November 01, 2009, 03:12:44 PM
The forum rules also do not allow insults.
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: ecube on November 01, 2009, 04:25:49 PM
Quote from: MichaelW on November 01, 2009, 04:33:14 AM
QuoteUnderstand?

If you are trying to learn how to modify an EXE other than you own, you should know that the forum rules do not allow this.


MichaelW any paticular reason? theres a thread on api hooking, and even microsoft themselves created their own detour library for api hooking, because it allows adding additional functionality  to a program you perhaps didn't write, and at the end of the day it is YOUR machine others program is running on. We're all aware of maclious coders, and malware, but I don't see the reason for fearing any and every piece of code that that could be used for harm. Because following that logic, quite simple means no code is safe,you could write something that messagebox and process creates spam, in a few lines, yet we allow both functions here. Windows provides the API for what he's asking, so obviously it's not illegal ingeneral.
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: rags on November 01, 2009, 05:05:33 PM
ECube, writing code for use on your machine is one thing, but the trouble begins when kiddie scripter A passes that code on to  kiddie scripter B, and so on. Then in essence you have a modified exe being passed around without the express consent of the original author.
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: BlackVortex on November 01, 2009, 09:48:46 PM
Quote from: rags on November 01, 2009, 05:05:33 PM
ECube, writing code for use on your machine is one thing, but the trouble begins when kiddie scripter A passes that code on to  kiddie scripter B, and so on. Then in essence you have a modified exe being passed around without the express consent of the original author.
Really ? I made a thread about specifying memory regions on another process (for easier and quicker searching in trainer making) and it got locked   :eek

Bogdan suggested that if I want to cheat in a game I should use its SDK (!) or even better code my own game.  :cheekygreen:
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: hutch-- on November 02, 2009, 07:29:34 AM
Guys,

Can I let you in on a little secret, the arse on the chopping block for anything that gets posted in this forum is mine so as you may guess, I don't intend to cover anyone who posts illegal stuff in here. Under current English law a kid can be arrested for having porn on his cell phone, does anyone think I will cover up people who post game cracks, trainers, viruses, trojans and hacks ?

This forum is for assembly language programmers who write FULLY LEGAL CODE and it is never going to change.
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: blake7897 on November 03, 2009, 05:26:08 PM
I think My question make :S fight Well Thank you all for Answer i will Think about it!!
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: BlackVortex on November 03, 2009, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: hutch-- on November 02, 2009, 07:29:34 AM
game cracks, trainers, viruses, trojans and hacks ?
Jesus, you put trainers along with everything else ?

Let's just ban ReadProcessMemory and WriteProcessMemory, because that's what a trainer does. Omg, brutally changing another process's memory, how illegal ! Burn the heretic !   :green

Also a keyboard hook for the hotkey. Omg, a "hook", sounds malicious ! Only pirates use hooks !   :cheekygreen:

Ok ok, I'll shut up now, enough black magic information for one post  :P
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: hutch-- on November 04, 2009, 12:14:34 PM
 :bg

I think you missed it, if other people wish to live dangerously, best of luck to them but what no-one will do is live dangerously and use ME as the patsy for allowing it to be posted here. The various little sh*ts that have dumped virus code here over time want to hide behind their anonymous nick names and email addresses while leaving me with the responsibility for what they dump here. It ain't gonna happen.  :P
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: dedndave on November 04, 2009, 06:10:03 PM
i am all for anything that keeps the script kiddies out of my computer
we can do our small part by minimizing the help we give them to write that kind of code
i always try to push them toward the "enlightened" side of writing assembler - lol
hoping that they can get something positive out of it and that they realize it is a waste of time and energy to write malicious code
that does limit us a little, as i would like to know how to do certain things (non-malicious apps, of course)
but, i can find other sources for that kind of thing when i am ready to do so - it doesn't have to come from masm32
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: ecube on November 04, 2009, 08:31:19 PM
All he asked was how to read a processes memory and he was attacked because virus skiddies use to same API to write viruses.  If he had asked how to write a virus that'd be one thing, but asking how to use a API which has been used on this forum before is, yet denied is getting crazy.
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: dedndave on November 04, 2009, 08:33:44 PM
they draw attention to themselves when newbies come in and ask these types of advanced questions before asking the simple ones
Title: Re: Question!
Post by: 2-Bit Chip on November 04, 2009, 11:07:19 PM
Quote from: MichaelW on November 01, 2009, 03:12:44 PM
The forum rules also do not allow insults.

I would think there would be exceptions.  :clap: