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Title: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: shankle on February 15, 2009, 01:33:03 PM
On the Wilders forum there is a Sticky called: "Linux... where to start"?  Recommended reading by Mrkvonic

Tons of stuff and IMHO a very good source of information on linux.
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: drhowarddrfine on February 15, 2009, 03:07:50 PM
Linux Documentation Project (http://tldp.org/)
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: hutch-- on February 15, 2009, 03:14:16 PM
Where to start ?

1. Rewrite the "Colonel" so its users can actually learn what it does.
2. Trash the crappy old command line commands and rewrite them so a human being can use them.
3. Modernise the documentation to at least 1985 Microsoft [tm] DOS standards.
4. When you are finished doing all of this, format the disk and install Windows.  :bg
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: shankle on February 15, 2009, 04:01:24 PM
The only reason I am doing all of this is because Microsoft writes one crappy OS after another and Windows7 will be no exception.
They know what they are doing and  don't tell me they can't write an OS system that's not full of back doors holes.
For EX: I don't need CCleaner, a virus checker, a registry cleaner in Ubuntu.
One would tend to think that it is being done intentionally. Wouldn't one.
From my short experience with Ubuntu it seems to be free of all the nonsense I have to put up with in the never ending
parade of OSsssssss from Microsoft.
I would love to see a MASM32 version for Ubuntu. (Hutch Hint)
My only grip with Ubuntu so far is the lack of  structured Books/Manuals that assumes nothing and teaches from the ground up
and preferably written by a professional writer. This is one of my major grips with programming subjects in general, the lack of
well planned, comprehensive, well written instruction manuals.


Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: drhowarddrfine on February 15, 2009, 08:55:20 PM
hutch,
You make a total fool of yourself when you make comments like that about something you know nothing about.
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: hutch-- on February 16, 2009, 03:01:55 AM
 :bg

Doc,

A little knowledge is dangerous, sad to say I know just enough to have set up the last Ubuntu box PERFECTLY as a LAMP server with Sambe, FTP, SSH etc etc .... but WHAT A PIG TO CONFIGURE !!!!

My complaints about Unix generally is not how it works, it works well if you can spend long enough to configure it. I did not ever waste my time trying to secure it as I used it in my LAN only.

It needs a complete user interface rewrite and I don't mean some crapheap like KDE or similar, I mean ANYTHING that a human being is supposed to interact with, the comand line interface is an ancient pile of crap, the BORN AGAIN shell needs to be brought up to at least 1985 DOS standards and when all of this is clean tidy and makes sense it needs a decent GUI that is built into the system, not any of the curent appendages that are as slow as a wet week.

At least Apple got it right but they rewrote a lot of code to do it.
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: drhowarddrfine on February 16, 2009, 03:27:09 AM
Here's a nickel, kid. (http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/20000/1000/000/21021/21021.strip.gif)
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: sinsi on February 16, 2009, 03:52:59 AM
Quote from: drhowarddrfine on February 16, 2009, 03:27:09 AM
[urlhttp://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/20000/1000/000/21021/21021.strip.gif]Here's a nickel, kid.[/url]
Here's a nickel, kid. (http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/20000/1000/000/21021/21021.strip.gif)
A preview in time saves a dime...

Do you wear suspenders doc?  :bg
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: BlackVortex on February 16, 2009, 12:38:26 PM
I heard somewhere that every time Linux boots a kid in Africa dies.
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: drhowarddrfine on February 16, 2009, 01:20:30 PM
I'm really a FreeBSD user and wear suspenders AND a belt. for security.
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: japheth on February 16, 2009, 01:25:06 PM

Trolls, why can't you restrict your nonsense posts to the Colosseum? AFAICS the OP meant this thread to be a serious one.
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: xmetal on February 16, 2009, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: japheth on February 16, 2009, 01:25:06 PM
Trolls, why can't you restrict your nonsense posts to the Colosseum? AFAICS the OP meant this thread to be a serious one.

I agree. Many posts that really belong in the Soapbox or Colosseum unfortunately do manage to "spill over into the main forums".
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: hutch-- on February 17, 2009, 07:47:13 AM
Doc,

I have no doubt you would look great in suspenders, what about the fishnet stockings ?
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: old programmer on February 18, 2009, 02:28:33 AM
So many things are easier with a command-line interface. Any of you know VBSCript or JScript?
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: sinsi on February 18, 2009, 03:09:28 AM
Quote from: shankle on February 15, 2009, 01:33:03 PM
On the Wilders forum there is a Sticky called: "Linux... where to start"?  Recommended reading by Mrkvonic

Tons of stuff and IMHO a very good source of information on linux.
Do you have a URL for it?
Linux ... Where to start? Recommended reading ... (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=227959)

Not bad. I'm going to dual-boot ubuntu (again), see if I can wrap my head around it this time  :bdg
Title: Re: Very informative artical on Linux
Post by: drhowarddrfine on February 18, 2009, 04:31:46 AM
Quote from: old programmer on February 18, 2009, 02:28:33 AM
So many things are easier with a command-line interface. Any of you know VBSCript or JScript?
JScript is a bastardization. 

My experience with VBScript entails needing to access a web page, download it, and print it on a secondary printer without changing the default settings.  I went to 7 different Windows/.NET forums.  It can't be done.  In the meantime, my Unix box did all that in 12 lines of bash.