The loonyness of religion in America.

[rags]

Speaking of auto programs Dave,the Feds are giving away $7500 for electric cars that are bought mainly by richer people.Because thats all that can afford
the higher price tag of those cars.

[dedndave]

see - that sounds like a replay of what happened here

here in Az, there is a wealthy group of individuals known as "the phoenix 40"
it's a group of land developers, car dealers, lawyers, bankers, media execs, and other rich assholes that pretty much run the state
they decide what bills pass and who gets elected - not the people

i remember, one year, the people were so visibly tired of republican governors (because they are controlled by the group)
so - the phoenix 40 took a republican candidate, put her on the ticket as a democrat - and backed her with big money
you were going to get one of their puppets, no matter how you voted
and - it's not the governor they are interested in, so much as the secretary of state
an office that is appointed by the governor - not elected
the secretary of state oversees elections - which i believe are crooked as hell, here
i have seen numerous bills pass that were overwhelmingly opposed by the masses
and no federal oversight - no way to prove it

that's how they control the bills - and that's how they got that alternative fuels thing passed
and - of course, the car dealers that are members of the phoenix 40 were the ones that got paid for doing the conversions
the elected officials - at all levels - were the ones that saw it coming and put their orders in for new vehicles
of course - many phoenix 40 family members, friends, and so on, also got new cars - largely paid for by taxpayers
by the time your average citizen caught wind of the deal - too late - so sorry

before that, we had a budget surplus - now, the state is broke
and - they are looking for new ways to bilk the taxpayers