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Severe Conservative Syndrome

Started by anunitu, February 14, 2012, 04:02:56 PM

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anunitu

Caught this on google news,and thought to myself, this explains a LOT.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/opinion/krugman-severe-conservative-syndrome.html

Quote fron the piece.

"The point is that today's dismal G.O.P. field — is there anyone who doesn't consider it dismal? — is no accident. Economic conservatives played a cynical game, and now they're facing the blowback, a party that suffers from "severe" conservatism in the worst way. And the malady may take many years to cure."

Bill Cravener

Quote from: anunitu on February 14, 2012, 04:02:56 PM
And the malady may take many years to cure."

anunitu, we can only hope so. Death to the republican party. The GOP is a warmongering racist bigoted christain hippocratic bunch of losers. May they burn in their imaginary hell for eternity!!

That wasn't too harsh was it? :bg
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anunitu

Not at all Bill,very low key response :U :clap: :naughty:

rags

Biggoted?? Racist?
I present for your inspection the late DEMOCRATIC Senator from W.Va, the Hon. Robert Byrd.The longest serving US Senator.
  --- Was a Member of the Klu Klux Klan--> cant get any more racist than that.
---- Filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act

If it weren't for the GOP, the Democrats would have been successfull  in blocking the Civil Rights Act of 1964
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Civil_Rights_Filibuster_Ended.htm

Warmongering?
Woodrow Wilson WW1
F.D.Roosevelt WW2
Harry Truman --- Korean War, military advisers to Vietnam
JFK  Massively increases US involvement in Vietnam, despite Eisenhowers warning not to.

What do the above Presidents all have in common?
They are all Democrats.
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anunitu

Democrats or Republicans,if these negitives are issues,then all of them are at fault. I very much wish to see honest,caring and moral people in these positions. Not call yourself a moral person and then commit some breech of civilised behavior because of greed,or worse because of a lack of understanding of your obligation to the common people,ALL the people!

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Quote from: rags on February 15, 2012, 03:38:48 AM
Biggoted?? Racist?
I present for your inspection the late DEMOCRATIC Senator from W.Va, the Hon. Robert Byrd.The longest serving US Senator.
  --- Was a Member of the Klu Klux Klan--> cant get any more racist than that.
---- Filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act

If it weren't for the GOP, the Democrats would have been successfull  in blocking the Civil Rights Act of 1964
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Civil_Rights_Filibuster_Ended.htm

Warmongering?
Woodrow Wilson WW1
F.D.Roosevelt WW2
Harry Truman --- Korean War, military advisers to Vietnam
JFK  Massively increases US involvement in Vietnam, despite Eisenhowers warning not to.

What do the above Presidents all have in common?
They are all Democrats.


Kind of odd that old Bill has such animosity towards those who have to labor to support him in his doddering old age.
If it wasn't for the "warmongering racist bigoted christain hippocratic bunch of losers." old Bill would have to actually work and support himself.
Progressive libtards would starve to death without em.

hutch--

Mike,

Its an impressive list of past presidents but remember Kennedy is over 50 years ago and none of those wars brought the US to its knees. Fast forward to the Bush era and you have two mindless wars that could never be won, that drained the US military and economy to the extent that disasters like New Orleans were being funded by Muslims and Communists (Dubai and Venezuela). It would have to be farcical that poor Americans were making it through winter with the assistance of Hugo Chavez, not George W. Bush but then they were more interested in pissing your taxpayers money against the wall to line the pockets of their buddies including the Bin Laden family.

Is it any great secret that Haliburton is now set up in Dubai so that it does not pay US taxes ? It leave the tax burden to ordinary Americans who paid for their profits in the first place.

There have been great Republican presidents in the past but its been a while, the last one that was any good was IKE, a genuine hero and an American Patriot. Shame there have not been any since that were worth having.
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Bill Cravener

Steve, :bg

We are seeing a terminal cancer growing within the Republican Party. The GOP now appeals to the basest, stupidest impulses of its followers and they happily find that it does them no harm in the GOP election polls. Rick Santorum as the current GOP front runner makes this so very clear. Two renowned Republican ideologues David Frum and Mike Lofgren said it best.

Frum said;  "conservatives have built a whole alternative knowledge system, with its own facts, its own history, its own laws of economics". The result is a "shift to ever more extreme, ever more fantasy-based ideology" which has "ominous real-world consequences for American society".

Lofgren said; "the crackpot outliers of two decades ago have become the vital centre today". The Republican Party, with its "prevailing anti-intellectualism and hostility to science" is appealing to what he calls the "low-information voter", or the "misinformation voter". While most office holders probably don't believe the "reactionary and paranoid claptrap" they peddle, "they cynically feed the worst instincts of their fearful and angry low-information political base".

I think the re-election of President Obama will be yet another nail in the coming death coffin of the Republican Party. :thumbu
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rags

Quote from: Bill Cravener on February 15, 2012, 10:40:04 AM
I think the re-election of President Obama will be yet another nail in the coming death coffin of the Republican Party. :thumbu
....And the United States as we know it.
Quote from: hutch-- on February 15, 2012, 07:32:15 AM
It would have to be farcical that poor Americans were making it through winter with the assistance of Hugo Chavez, not George W. Bush but then they were more interested in pissing your taxpayers money against the wall to line the pockets of their buddies including the Bin Laden family.
Not much different than Obama lining the pockets of his SuperPAc bundlers at Solyndra.. $500+ million that US taxpayers will never see again
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hutch--

Mike,

There are some things that outsiders see in the US that most Americans miss and it is because we don't live in the US media loop. In world terms the two US political parties fit into the spectrum of rabid right wing or even more rabid right wing and the differences are in fact very small in terms of the whole political spectrum. Where Obama has made the difference is in restoring the international credibility of the US after 8 disasterous years of Republican rule where they had the presidency and both houses and could do whatever they liked. Couple this with the clapped out old left ideology of the Neo-Cons and they shifted the US from the benign superpower to the status of an international pariah state.

For all of what I did not like about Clinton (He Haw Monica etc ...) when Bush faked his way into the US presidency he inherited the US with its debt under control, its international status at its highest, its military capacity without peer and the status of being the world's leading economy yet in 8 years the economy was trashed, the internal infrastructure of the US fell into serious decay to the extent that foreign enemies were funding situations of poverty in the US that its own government could not (Katrina, cold winters etc ....) the US military has been seriously weakened and the massive expenditure funding two wars to feed the scams of Haliburton and KRB among others has left the US with a serious debt problem and in hock to China to keep their economy going.

Then there is the loss of about 4 and a half thousand young Americans in sh*tholes like Iraq and Afghanistan and the massive number of casualties associated with these two wars and you get at lest some idea of how much damage the Neo-Con loonies did under Bush. With the Tea Party and similar strains of Republicanism they will finish what Bush and his cronies started, the final demise of the US as it collapses into civil war.

This is the poison chalice that Obama inherited and while the loonie tune end of the GOP paint him as a Muslim "nigger" born elsewhere, he has in fact done better than they expected, even after funding the Wall Street disaster he inherited from Bush and his cronies, this is why the international community hold him in respect while they hated Bush and all he stood for.
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anunitu

I think I opened a can of worms here,but perhaps this subject needs the fresh light of day..why its in the colosseum.

NPNW

rags, 500 million is nothing compared to the billions and trillions that Bush shoveled to his cronies. Just like Bill Clinton was wrong with Monica, Bush screwed every American. I mean one was between him and his wife and the other was happy to do everyone, and be proud about it.  I like how the Republicans are forceing a vaginal ultrasound on pregenant women.  A Democratic legislator tried to get rectal exans for all males before giving out viagra pills. The problem is the Repubs would be in every week for their pills, clogging up the health care system. 

vanjast

Now that's a real funny place... the USA  :bg
:dazzled:

cman

#13
QuoteIts an impressive list of past presidents but remember Kennedy is over 50 years ago and none of those wars brought the US to its knees.

I think Hutch is right on this. Both of the parties have changed and evolved many times over the years and are nothing like they were in the 50's , 60's , etc. From my knowledge of the Republican party they have a long history of supporting this or that policy ( nationalized health care , civil rights , etc. ) and have changed  position on these policies latter ( same with the Democrats ). But that's just politics in America , the parties policies are in constant flux , the electoral maps have changed several times ( remember when the Democrats represented the South and the other poor states and the Republicans represented the more affluent states before the passage of the civil rights act and the "political map" flipped colors ) and I'm not sure if it makes sense to argue this party is for this or that issue by reaching back into history to find some snap-shot in time when one party supported this or that.  I think what matters in politics is whats going on right now...