Haiti. . .

[Farabi]

Its on the newspaper here.
That was a big one, even a building and a hospital colapsed.
Thats terrible.

[ecube]

Bill what's your thoughts on this
http://freakoutnation.com/2010/01/13/rush-limbaugh-should-be-deported-to-haiti/

[Bill Cravener]

Bill what's your thoughts on this
http://freakoutnation.com/2010/01/13/rush-limbaugh-should-be-deported-to-haiti/

E^cube,

Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson are sickos that should be. . . .baaaa, morons!!

Doug Thompson of Capital Hill Blue puts it pretty well, he calls them sub-human dregs. http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/21564

Edit: I have edited this post and apologize to everyone for my angry outburst. No one should speak as I did there.

[Bill Cravener]

Here in the states this is what conservative and evangelical mind sets have come to. I'd say those two sickos Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson are very evil people.

Video of the sickos Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson

[rags]

Bill,
I can't comment on Robertson, BUT, Rush does have a valid point.
Donate to the Red Cross or other relief organizations, not to Whitehouse.org.
That way you are more sure the money would go towards the relief effort.

Our dear Commander in Chief found it not necessary to come out and fully address
the American sheeple until THREE days after the shooting at Ft Hood, ever treading
so lightly  so he can be as PC about it as possible and not offend anyone.

Another THREE days passed after the "underwear" bombers failed attempt, before he
found it necessary to address the American public.

But almost immediately he made a speech about the earthquake, which we all know happened
in Haiti, not the U.S..
It just seems that he is more concerned about his image in world affairs,
than events that DIRECTLY effect the safety and security of the people who elected him to that office.

[Bill Cravener]

If all the idiots making that statement would check out the Whitehouse.org site you would see that the links direct you to the Red Cross and other organizations where you can contribute to Haiti. For anyone to believe that their money is going to go to the government from that site simply because an asshole like Rush Limbaugh tells them so is total asinine absurdity. People like that need to pull their heads out of their ass. They are sick, sick in the mind and spirit. And they call themselves Christians, HA!!

How you can compare the importance of 100's of thousands of dead human beings to some nut case on an airplane is beyond me. Rush Limbaugh and all his brain dead ditto head followers are simply crazy nut cases. Are you a ditto head rags? Sure sounds like it to me pal.

You really are a cynical person rags. I've know my share of postal workers "federal employees" thru my life and they are all cynical SOB's. Why is that? Hell, you postal workers got it better then most. We taxpayers see to that!

[Bill Cravener]

Roger states it better then I;  :thumbu

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100114/OPINION/100119985

There is a prejudice evil nature in my country that needs removed!

[hutch--]

Guys,

Just a words of wisdom from an old fella, disasters tend to bring out all sorts of reactions and I doubt anyone blames the poor bastards who died there. We have had them close to us, the tsunami a few years ago had dead bodies all over Asia and we lost people who were on holidays when it happened. These things tend to transcend politics and it is to the credit that many Americans have reached into their pockets to help these poor bastards out, even when they are feeling the pinch themselves.

the details of how the money is collected, even though it does in fact matter is a secondary consideration to the fact that they are at least getting some help with a disaster of this scale.

[Bill Cravener]

Steve,

You're right of course it's just that I get upset by some of what I'm hearing. Why the right is making the Haiti disaster political I just can't comprehend.

Here is the gov link that is being reported to be sending money to Obama. Please someone; show me where on the site this can be done.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/01/14/president-haiti-first-waves-our-rescue-and-relief-workers-are-ground-and-work

[rags]

Why the right is making the Haiti disaster political I just can't comprehend

Bill it's because Chairman Obamao seems to care more about other countries than the one he's been elected to protect.

Granted Haiti is a disaster, and it's a real shame that all those people died,
but it's not his first responsibility as president of the US.
His first priority is to the American people, to protect them from all enemies both foreign and domestic.

When the President takes 3 days to address the people after each of 2 seperate incidents of terror
in this country, it shows that he doesn't give a rat's a*s about the safety and security
of the American people.

[oex]

The 2 are intertwined, you cant have a safe country if other countries hate you.... The children of the world live in the United States this is why it is the richest country.... For all countries to promote the US is for them to promote future values in an increasingly dangerous world.

We all know dinosaurs rule the planet from outer space I do find all this right/left stuff rather childish

[hutch--]

Mike,

I am not sure that the comparison from present to past administrations in the US is flattering, the last one that mouthed protection, security and economy while starting two impossible to win wars, bled the savings of older Americans so they cannot live in comfort in their old age, trashed the economy so badly they had to rely on charity from their enemies to fund the New Orleans disaster relief and did their swan song by ripping trillions out of the economy to line the pockets of the merchant banking sector.

Their rhetoric did not match what they did but they sure shafted ordinary Americans to the tune of trillions that went out of the US and will never come back. Funny how Haliburton is now set up in Dubai.

No, Obama is not a right wing loonie Republican but he is solving massive problems left over from the last administration while having put in place security measures that actually protect Americans, is doing something effective against the Taliban in Pakistan that the last lot failed to do and has stabilised the economy aft5er the last lot did their best to destroy it. Why do some of those war criminals like Cheney, Wolfowitz, Pearl and the like own villas in Europe for ? How many of your taxpayers dollars went into these ripoffs ?

[rags]

The complaint is not with the act of helping the Haitian people, They do need the help.

It is with the speed of the response to the American people about his decision to do so,
while issues involving national security get put on the back burner.

[Bill Cravener]

Shame this thread has been highjacked and now I'm just as much to blame for it.

Poor misguided ditto heads.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/29/bush-waited-nine-days-to_n_406307.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2009/dec/30/obama-terrorism-response

[vanjast]

I heard that they had 2 years 'notice' of a big quake... Poor or not - there's no excuse for not heeding warnings like this.

It's tragic, but when they start blaming the world (according to local news) for not helping them in their moment of tragedy... hmmmm!!!
Frankly they're lucky to get any help at all, from people who care. :eek