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Started by dexter, August 20, 2008, 06:30:48 PM

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dedndave

much nicer than what my guess was - lol

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sinsi

So does a 'no imports' PE work in Vista? The only reason I can see for not using GetModuleHandle as evlncrn8 said (18 months ago) is to have no imports at all.
I mean c'mon, a win32 program is sure to need win32 api calls which means imports.

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japheth

Quote from: sinsi on December 03, 2009, 07:39:24 AM
So does a 'no imports' PE work in Vista? The only reason I can see for not using GetModuleHandle as evlncrn8 said (18 months ago) is to have no imports at all.
I mean c'mon, a win32 program is sure to need win32 api calls which means imports.

No. Do you need a "useful", non-artificial real-world example? Then see PE jdisasm.dll in http://ww.japheth.de/Download/pe.zip

hutch--

 :bg

> No. Do you need a "useful", non-artificial real-world example? Then see PE jdisasm.dll in http://ww.japheth.de/Download/pe.zip

How many AV scanners can it get past ?
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sinsi

Light travels faster than sound, that's why some people seem bright until you hear them.

japheth


@hutch + sinsi: I'm not going to answer your "questions".

Instead, a question from me: In Germany, if someone has lost a bet, but tries to avoid the payment by some belated sophistry, such a behavior is regarded as dishonorable. How is this regarded Down Under?

sinsi

What on Earth are you on about?

"So does a 'no imports' PE work in Vista?" NO
"The only reason I can see for not using GetModuleHandle as evlncrn8 said (18 months ago) is to have no imports at all." NO
"I mean c'mon, a win32 program is sure to need win32 api calls which means imports." NO
Light travels faster than sound, that's why some people seem bright until you hear them.

hutch--

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It is much the same here in OZ but the problem that I raised about getting it past a virus scanner when it has no import table questions the viability of it being a real world app.

If it gets trashed by some crappy AV scanner it has ZERO viability as an application and a good way to do this is make it look like a virus to the AV idiots.
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dedndave

QuoteIf it gets trashed by some crappy AV scanner it has ZERO viability as an application
i hope that isn't so
i would get a new scanner   :P