Health care for Seniors

[shankle]

IMHO this is a feasible solution to the health care crisis in the USA.


*Subject:* New Health Care Plan

          *The Perfect Solution to Senior  Health Care* 
     
   *While discussing the upcoming Universal Health  Care Program with
   my friend the other day, I think we have found  the solution. I am
   sure you have heard the ideas that if you 're a  senior you need to
   suck it up and give up the idea that you need any  health care. A
   new hip? Unheard of. We simply can't afford to take care  of you
   anymore. You don't need any medications for your high blood
   pressure, diabetes, heart problems, etc. Let's take care of the
   young  people. After all, they will be ruling the world very soon. 
     
   So here is the  solution. When you turn 70, you get a gun and 4
   bullets. You are allowed  to shoot 2 senators and 2 representatives.
   Of course, you will be sent  to prison where you will get 3 meals a
   day, a roof over your head and  all the health care you need! New
   teeth, great! Need glasses, no  problem. New hip, knee, kidney,
   lung, heart? Well bring it on. And who  will be paying for all of
   this. The same government that just told you  that you are too old
   for health care. And, since you are a prisoner, you  don't have to
   pay any income tax.* 
       
   P.S.  If we all do our part we can  end up in the same prison and
   have one hell of a social life.   
   

[dedndave]

i think it's a great plan
although, i might lean toward giving them the entire box of ammo
i like fast solutions
on the other hand, we could give the guns and ammo to the congressmen, make them shoot a terrorist and go to prison
then, we severely cut back spending on prison health-care and use the money to fund medi-care
result on a per-bullet basis:
1 dead terrorist
1 congressman behind bars, where they belong, with no teeth and no retirement plan
between the money saved on prison health-care and the congressional retirement bennies, medi-care would thrive
with no teeth, we would also save on prison food, as it could simply be pourage

[ecube]

heh, your clever, and touched on alot of things in a unexpected way :) nj sir  :U

[Bill Cravener]

IMHO this is a feasible solution to the health care crisis in the USA.

Jack, you and I may not always agree but you are right on the mark with this one. Thing is I'm not sure I'll make it to 70. Maybe I'll go buy a gun now, thats easy enough to do here in the states, and go shot me some politicians so I can benefit now instead of waiting 12 more years. :wink

[shankle]

Yes Dedndave, those are a few good points. Certainly can't do any harm.
What I find especially disgusting is one like Dodd, Who is a known crook and remains in office and will collect a pension for it.
I guess one can't rat on another as they all probably have skeletons in the closet. What a deplorable situation.

[Bill Cravener]

What I find especially disgusting is one like Dodd, Who is a known crook and remains in office and will collect a pension for it.

It is interesting to point out that Dodd declared that he has prostate cancer today and it was detected early because he gets yearly exams. Sad that those who do not have heath care in this country some 50 million would find out to late and die of the disease unlike Dodd who has perhaps the best health care coverage money can buy paid for by the tax payer.

[shankle]

Hi Cycle Saddles,
Yes it is sad for those that don't have insurance.
But on the other hand do we really want a socialistic health care program?
Politics as I see it is "who gets what, when and how.
As I see it going, the health benefits which I have worked for will now be reduced or taken away from me, which could be a death sentence.
I totally disagree with giving Illegal aliens government supported health care benefits.
I have a Canadian friend that tells of having to wait to get a necessary test. And the wait could spell a death sentence for the individual.
We certainly don't want a system like that in this country.

[Bill Cravener]

Yes I do want a socialistic health care program. What about the waitresses and single moms, the dishwashers, the self employed carpenters and handymen, the guy who cleans your pool, mechanics, plumbers, painters and tradesmen of all kinds, with kids to raise and mortgages and just barely scraping by. Many are getting foreclosed on, many can't even pay their bills. A half million jobs each month are disappearing and with them goes the insurance if there was any to begin with. Some 14 thousand people a day are losing their health care.

Truth-O-Meter Link Page.

The fact is a huge number of people do not have insurance, but another huge number do have insurance and still get tossed on the dung heap when they get too sick or file a claim and are denied because of insurance policy changes or some cooked up accusation of a pre-existing condition, and so on and so on.

By the way my understanding of Obama's health care reform, last I checked, specifically cuts illegals out completely. . .just so you're aware of that. I guess illegals could still go to the emergency room at the local hospital.

I have a Canadian friend that tells of having to wait to get a necessary test. And the wait could spell a death sentence for the individual.

I have several Canadian friends I have know for many years who would tell you that statement is simply bullshit.

[hutch--]

Bill,

> Maybe I'll go buy a gun now

Nah, why waste expensive ammo when you can do it with a baseball bat and have heaps more fun, especially if you start at their toes and go uphill.

I hope you do end up with a properly government funded health system, we still have the remains of one here and if you are seriously ill you get done fast but if its elective you wait until there is enough room. Its about time those greedy bastards in "big pharma" got arseholed out the door for ripping ordinary people off so badly.

I just hope we all can beat this coming scam of the WHO enforcing innoculation of an untested vaccine for swine flu just so these greedy bastards can make another killing in vaccine sales. There is a risk that everyone who is forced to accept this vaccine will catch something even worse.

[Bill Cravener]

Nah, why waste expensive ammo when you can do it with a baseball bat and have heaps more fun, especially if you start at their toes and go uphill.

Steve,

There are a handful of self-serving powerful special interest groups who are unraveling our economy and holding us hostage. They are the American Medical Association, the Americas Health Insurance Plans, the American Hospital Association and the Pharmaceutical Industry. These groups are the gatekeepers of our health care and spend HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars in advertising, lobbying and political contributions to keep their beds feathered and to keep the status quo.

In the movie "The Untouchables" Robert Deniro plays the part of Al Capone and he takes a baseball bat to one of his cronies head. I'd gleefully take a bat to each and every head in both the House and Senate that takes money from those bastards. They are all cockroaches and should be exterminated!!

[dedndave]

i think you left out the bankers, lawyers, and oil companies
well - big businessmen, in general
i suppose you managed to get a few lawyers by using the term "lobbyist" - lol

[hutch--]

Bill,

I am just old enough to have seen the footage of Joe McArthy in the 50s and its something like this that is needed in much the same way as Hank Paulson has been grilled lately. The US is at a critical time at the moment due to the rape and pillage of the economy where it can actually fix many of the major distortions that have accumulated over time, the FED, "big pahrma" and the like that are ripping Americans off to the tune of billions.

It is still farcical that you have an online pharmacy industry in Canada selling drugs to Americans at far lower prices than the going US price and which are still a lot higher than the international price of the same drugs. I think its reasonable that ordinary Americans and especially the poorer ones should be able to buy their necessary drugs at the same price as people in the rest of the world, this would drop the cost of health care by some massive amount.

It will take a lot of guts to fight these big interests but times are hard and many people are suffering because of what they have been able to get away with for years so it just might happen.

If the US can get rid of this fascist style of relationship between big business and government and return to a free enterprise economy where competition sorts out the good from the bad, I will see America the great again in my lifetime.

[rags]

If the US can get rid of this fascist style of relationship between big business and government and return to a free enterprise economy where competition sorts out the good from the bad, I will see America the great again in my lifetime.

I hope so too! :U

[shankle]

I'm not saying our present health care situation could not be improved upon but to let the government get control of our health care is down right scary. IMHO anything that the government gets their hands on is a disaster. All of Congress should be on this HC package and NOT the one they have. Do your think they will vote to change their insurance to this one??

I will give my farewells to you all now and hope you fare better than all of us senior citizens which this HC bill is a government controlled DEATH sentence for the lot of us. It's nice to have an accountant decide when I die. Way to go Mr Obama.... May you live long and prosper!!!

If you haven't read the HC bill before Congress here is the web site of a PDF file of the bill:
     http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf

Welcome all to our new Socialistic America.
Oh by the way aliens get free HC

[hutch--]

Jack,

Our old timers get free health care based on the urgency of the problem, if its an emergency they get done fast, if its elective without being urgent there is a delay depending on workload and if they have enough money they can buy private health care. It means you don't have to sell your house to get medical assistance if you are ill.

Just remove all of the government scams propping up the current health care system and all of this extra money not being ripped out of the system becomes available and you don't have to pay the highest proces in the world for medications.

Its basically a 2 level system, the large public one done at minimum cost and the expensive one for rich people.