help for the mentally challenged - ME

[shankle]

Windows lovers Don't read any further.

I've been running some costly form of Windows for many years.
I've been running Ubuntu (FREE) for 6 months.
Comparison:
        Windows                                                                               Ubuntu
       Registry mechanic $40                                                         not necessary
       Ccleaner - free by their graciousness                                not necessary
       Eset SS  $50                                                                           not necessary
       Windows upgrades $200                                                     Free
       defragmenter                                                                          not necessary
       pop-catcher                                                                             no pop-ups
       help - non free                                                                        free help of sorts
       threats for non legitimate copies                                        no threat   
       UAC hassle                                                                            non       
       all the things I have missed                                                 non

Since I am mentally challenged, help me to understand why a company as large as Microsoft can't do better than one
expensive crappy OS after another and a new comer like Ubuntu has their act together. Don't get me wrong IMHO
Ubuntu needs to get rid of the DOS like commands and use the mouse a LOT more to be up to date.

I can speculate on the reasons:
1: kick backs from third party cronies.
2: microsoft programmers can't write decent code
3: they don't care
4: they don't take pride in their work
5: crappy management
6: to big to change
7: money machine
8: all the things I have missed

I wonder how much forced money I have paid to Microsoft over the years??
Must be at least $1,000. The used to have upgrades for $30. Now their $200. Why the jump?
Used to be able to leave out items that you did not need. Now I guess it includes every language on the planet.
I ONLY  need English. To me that's unnecessary bloat.     
Do I sound bitter? Do I rant to much? Excuse please because I am mentally challenged.
Hutch if you want to delete this, your the boss.
enough

[Jimg]

The main reason is that 90% of the worlds software runs on windows and not linux.

[UtillMasm]

Linux just for Professional, not for me! :wink

[dedndave]

i was expecting a "priceless" punchline
disappointed   :(

[Mark Jones]

Dave, you're Hilarious. :lol

I would use Ubuntu or a variant, but it simply cannot do everything I do in Win. Also, that would entail learning a completely new assembler topology. ::)

[shankle]

Thanks guys for bothering to read my post.
Responses:
Jimg:             So true. That is why monopolies are so bad. No choice. I want choice.

Utillmasm:   Like I said Ubuntu needs to get rid of their stupid command line and get up to date otherwise I have no problem with it.
                      It does however have one major good point. It's FREEEEEE.
                      Solar Assembly works with Ubuntu, if you can figure out how to use it. Personally I would like my programs to work in
                      Windows and Linux. More exposure and all that. Besides Linux is gaining market share.

Dedndave:  Now Dave I ask you, how do you expect one that is mentally challenged to come up with a "priceless" punchline. :toothy

Mark Jones: I'm not sure I agreed that Ubuntu can not do everything Windows does but I am to new with it to be pedantic.
                       Again Solar Assembly is very similar to MASM32 as far as I can tell. Learning yes, but not 100%.
                       Again it is a question of exposure. Is more exposure worth the effort? Consider putting all your eggs in one basket
                       with our beloved Monopoly, "Microsoft". That not what I like to do.

At the present time I never use Windows to get my e-mail or browse the web. It's all done in Ubuntu.  I do use Windows to play Bridge on the BBO but that is the extent of it. Ubuntu works very well for these two endeavors.
But I'm still not a happy camper. Microsoft has been screwing with my mind for years cramming things down my throat that I don't like.
I'm a believer in choice in programming and do I dare mention Politics..... :bg

[hutch--]

Sad to say Jack the command line dependence in Unix variants is what keeps it in the dark ages and Ubuntu has not fixed this. A modernised and properly documented set of command line tools would go a long way to making Unix variants usable but as long as it maintains its 1970s interface below the modern user interface it will never get very far.

This is unfortunate as the user interface works well and as a working system, Ubuntu peforms well, is very stable and can be set up as a very good web server.

[mitchi]

Vista 64 BIT ULTIMATE MSDNAA Edition : 0 $
I wished they had payed me to use it  :bg

Joke aside, how much do you think that your time costs ? I am an expert Windows user and I work very efficiently under that Operating System. Learning how to use Linux is a big time eater. And in my case it's especially impossible because I'm a gamer.

[dedndave]

time eater..... gamer - lol
oh well
i used to play games a lot - not so much any more
i do play spades online
as for unix-based OS's, i have worked a few contracts where all the coders used linux or some other unix follower
i really think those OS's are intended for technical based use - math - engineering - etc
i don't see too many every-day home users running them
i will say that unix and c seem to go together well
if i was a c-coder, i might be more inclined to try red-hat or ubuntu or something
as it is, i am old enough that i do not want to set out and learn any "big new thing"
i avoided 32-bit code longer than i should have - that's as big as i want to get and hopefully the last big one for me
with luck, XP will still be in use when i cross over to the other side, cuz i don't plan to change

[shankle]

To Hutch,
I couldn't agree more. As I previously said I only use it for email and browsing. It's very good for that.
There so engrossed in the old way of doing things that I doubt they will change and that is a shame.
I had to memorize 10,000 DOS commands and I did because  there was nothing else. I'll be darned
if I am going to memorize 10,000 sudo commands to use Ubuntu.
To Dedndave,
Now Dave you must be half my age. We've got to keep open minds in the computer field as it has been in
constant flux for ever since I can remember. I started with punched cards and thank God that era is over.
It will still be in constant flux when you and I are gone. The puter on my desk top is probably several hundred   
times more powerful than the IBM 360 I started with 64K(not M) of memory. Hard drive of two Meg 5 or 6 platters
and 12 or so inches in diameter. Thank God they are gone. Anyway have fun...

[dedndave]

i started with the same crap - fortran I - don't make any typos

EDIT:
lol - "fortran I"

i dug out my old college book
it was FORTRAN 77

[hutch--]

Jack,

My first sighting of a computer as a kid was an IBM system 360 with all of the bits you describe, 64k core storage memory, 12 inch disks, reel to reel tape and was loaded with punch cards. While I confess to having been more interested in a couple of punch card operators, it really was a fascinating gadget in an air conditioned basement of the building and the guys who ran it all wore suits.

[dedndave]

about 1980-1983 i worked at sperry flight systems
they had a huge room for computers
on that system, you logged into one "processor" or another, depending on the language
at the prompt, for example you could type "@fortran" and it connected you to the fortan computer
there was another for cobol, ansi fortran, basic, and even pascal, i think
they had a huge lazer printer to handle the large demand
it required 2 full-time people (young kids, usually) to stand behind it and stack the paper
a few times, i saw that thing scroll paper almost to the ceiling - what was it  - 21' wide, i think
this was all fairly modern compared to the little 360 we had in college
the bottleneck on that thing was the card-reader - had to stand in line to enter your cards
at that time, they had about 20 card-punch machines (each with it's own waste basket, of course)
and one crt terminal - only the advanced students were allowed to schedule time on the crt

[shankle]

Those were the days.  Thank God they are gone.
So puters are still in a state of flux. Can't get your nose out of a book because it's changing so fast.
I need to come up for air.
Well fine. So be it. I'm waiting for the puter that will let me operate like "Scottie". I mean one where the
keyboard will be almost obsolete. Probably  another 10 years.

[dedndave]

yah - beam me up, too
i just want things to stay the same long enough to become proficient
as time goes on, that takes longer and longer
it's either a snowball effect or circling the drain - dunno which - don't have time to see